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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #90 on: January 05, 2016, 00:54:56 »
The only idea here I personally can connect to and identify with, is #4.

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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #91 on: January 05, 2016, 01:18:51 »
The only idea here I personally can connect to and identify with, is #4.

That is a lot better than none.  It might be the one that does it for all my wandering.

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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #92 on: January 05, 2016, 09:11:15 »
6.  I probably left something important off this list, but the general idea is it is about the photographer and his connection to what he shoots.
My number one; Light.

The rest follows automagically as in that I don't have to think about it.
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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #93 on: January 05, 2016, 12:56:16 »
My number one; Light.

My list: Seeing, Light, Perspective, ...

for portraits 99% is model interaction. If there is no connection to the person you take a photo of the picture will be bland.

for architecture 50% Light (come back when the light is right) ... 50% feel for geometry

for advertizing 95% conceptual work (getting the message right and the connotation) .. 5% technical stuff

for food 25% styling ... 75% lighting & perspective
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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #94 on: January 05, 2016, 13:26:14 »
My number one; Light.

The rest follows automagically as in that I don't have to think about it.

I guess mine was one of the posts that went with the change over  :(
I gave a +10 to your number one.  I think , except for Bjørn R and some others , light is required.  Obviously light has many sub-sets but has to be around for me.  I really need to work more with the various artificial lights which we have.  B.R and some will shoot in the dark and just use a different method of getting the image  ;D .
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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #95 on: January 05, 2016, 16:00:34 »
Light could fit into several categories.  By definition photography requires light.  Photographers must know how to use light to their advantage.   I am not proposing rules by any means, just ideas, #6 is good enough.

I am forever asking people to step into the shade due to the strong sun we have on so many days in Texas.

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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #96 on: January 07, 2016, 00:47:44 »
You make good points Ron...now let's see results that avoid the mundane, the obvious and the pointless....another point...photography is about LIGHT and not just about the subject being lit.

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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #97 on: January 07, 2016, 03:01:13 »
The type and quality of light is all important.   Subdued , textured, flat, harsh, bright, diffused etc.     I am cursed with harsh, bright  and flat light most of the year.  The Monsoon is really the only time I can get good light on a dependable basis but then few birds, and I get very wet  ;D .   I call it Egret light since the whites do not get blown as much.  I pray for thunder storms and stormy skies  ;) ,  I used to shoot in the Forest and loved the shadows and rays coming through the trees then the Government closed off the Forest for a rubbish dump  >:( . Progress  :'(

My favourite for birds and Sports is when there is cloud cover at just the right altitude so the Golden hour has the sun light bouncing down from the clouds.  Soft , diffused light that can have some really interesting colours and textures.  When I spot the conditions I grab one of the cameras, near to hand and rigged, then I head for my jeep.  Works for landscapes/Cityscapes as well.  Pollution/Smog can give some interesting effects but I'd rather it not be there.  Fog and mist, love 'em.  I'll be getting both, in the early mornings, any day now  :)
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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #98 on: January 07, 2016, 04:02:47 »
Well, I believe light is about using light to the best advantage.  My bias is light is inherent to photography.  It is as essential as having a camera or a lens.  In my mind it comes under either aesthetics or subject matter.  Perhaps another category is needed.  Tommie, I have been in India during the Monsoon and I understand what you are saying.  Bright high contrast sun is a challenge.  Haze, clouds and other forms of low contrast light are great for photographing people.  There is a lot of high contrast light in Texas.  They don't call it the sunbelt for nothing.  I can remember Monsoon rains in Bombay, alternately misting and raining as I walked down the seawall.

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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #99 on: February 02, 2016, 18:59:50 »
Fascinating thread.  Photography is personal.  At least, it should be.  Note how people get so wrapped up in the "THAT'S not the way *I* do it" concept.  :)   Hey, it's personal.  We should be emotional about it.

Make photos that interest you.  Make photos that please you.  You should look at what you shot a few years ago and be dissatisfied with them -- in general. 

How to take an interesting photo?  Stand in front of something that interests you.

Shoot before other photographers get out of bed.  Shoot when other photographers have gone to the bar.  Shoot when the light is perfect . . . and also when it is terrible.  Shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.   

I have filled dozens and dozens of large trash cans with 35mm slides.  In the first pass on the light table, if it's not good, just throw it away.  It's not getting better. Shoot, shoot, shoot.

Shoot all the time.  As with all skills, you get better at it the more you do it, but only if you demand of yourself that you improve.

Sometimes I ask myself, "Why are you going there?  What do you think you'll see there?"  The answer is always that I don't know what I'll see, but I know that if I don't go there, I won't see anything interesting there. 

Show up.  Show up early.  Stay late.  Work at it.  Be obsessive about it.  Hang out (in person, online, in books, and in galleries) with photographers who are so good you wonder how they do it.  Study how they do it.  Copy the heck out of them -- only as an exercise.  Then apply the skills you gained through that exercise to your own photography. 

Is a great photo made when you press the shutter button, or is it made in the darkroom (digital or otherwise)?  The answer is: YES!

You do whatever it takes.  Whatever it takes.

How do you make really great photographs?  Heck, I don't know. Sometimes you just get lucky.  But, the more you work at it, the luckier you get.   

OH! And always have a camera with you. ;)

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Great photo! You must have a really good camera.

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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #100 on: February 02, 2016, 20:16:24 »
Tom. Thank you!
You are out there. You and your camera. You can shoot or not shoot as you please. Discover the world, Your world. Show it to us. Or we might never see it.

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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #101 on: February 02, 2016, 20:31:17 »
Good explanation Tom.

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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #102 on: February 02, 2016, 23:15:36 »
I just gave a talk on photography to a high school. Here is a copy of my handout.

Gary's Ten Tips to Shoot Like a Pro
DISCLAIMER:
(Not all of the tips necessarily come from Gary but he'll take credit for them all.)
(These are General Tips and there will always exceptions to the general.)


Photography is made up of many different components. Those many components come together/are combined in different percentages per the photographer and the genre. But a significant component in photography, across all genres, is craft. As such, the more you do the better you will become.
Consequently:
1) Shoot;
2) Shoot some more; and
3) At the end of the day when you think you're finished, Shoot Again.

4) Find, Latch Onto and/or Hire ... A Mentor.
Seek someone who is highly skilled and passionate in photography, (the greater the skill the better). A Mentor will teach you the ropes, keep you focused and most importantly ... kick your butt. When you do a good job, the mentor will kick your butt and when you do a crummy job your mentor will kick your butt harder. "But, Gary ... Why does my butt get kicked when I do a good job?" you ask. Because ... (wait for it) ... You can ALWAYS do better. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the root for the passion and the challenge, which is photography.

5) You Can Always Do Better.
There is always room for improvement. Mr. Z asked me to bring my best stuff. It dawned on me that my best stuff is probably in the libraries/archives of the LA Times, UPI and the Orange County News. While that may be true, I never cared that my stuff was packed away, far from the light of day. Why doesn't this matter, because tomorrow I expect to capture an image which is better than I took yesterday.

6) Previsualize the image.
(Okay, 'Previsualize' is redundant and not a proper word, but it is something Ansel Adams came up with ... I won't correct Adams, especially on something as trivial as English.) This is important, if you shoot enough, (1 above), if you harmonize with your equipment, (8 below), previsualization is the next natural and critical step. Before I bring the viewfinder up to my eye, I have a mental picture of the final image. In my little cream cheese brain I can see the image I desire to capture, then I proceed to position the camera (composition), select the lens (perspective), adjust the settings (exposure), to reflect my mental image.

7) Shoot for the Exceptional Image.
Go big or go home. As a journalist, I was taught that the written word wasn't any different than the photograph. They both tell the story. Lenses to the photojournalist are like adjectives to the reporter. One can shoot with a focal length close to how we see ... But what's the point? What is so remarkable about that? Or you can use focal lengths which are perspectively much different than our natural vision ... "Aye, There's the Rub" ... what the writer does with adjectives, the photog does with lenses ... Embellishing, Highlighting this, De-emphasizing that, drawing us into the story and finally, putting your signature on the photo and making it exceptional. (Granted, there are stories which don't require a helluve lot of adjectives, YMMV.)

8) Harmonize with Your Equipment.
Yes, new hardware is cool. Yes, shooting with a ton of lenses is even cooler. But, (the big but), Start out small and add to your equipment slowly over time. Start with one lens and shoot the hell out of it. Understand how the lens works, what the DOF will be at f/11 or the edge sharpness at f/2. Know where the adjustments are without having to draw you eye away from the viewfinder and take a peak. After you have mastered that lens, then add another. Repeat. Same-o for the camera. Use it to the point where all your adjustments are semi-conscience, performed in the background, allowing you to focus all/most of your mental capabilities on the image in the viewfinder ... or the image you want in the viewfinder. (Pour moi and my cream cheese brain, this is vitally important.)

9) Be Your Worse Critic.
Kick you own butt. The delete button is your friend. Being your own worst critic will not only improve your photography but also make you as a person quite negative and socially repulsive.

10) See the Light.
Look beyond the subject and look at the light. Light is nothing short of fantastic, embrace it, work with it, capture the light. To add drama to your photos shoot towards the light (period).

General Stuff:
Rule of Thirds. When all less fails, use the Rule of Thirds.
Fill the Frame. Of course ... Fill the Frame with your subject. Shoot with the intent of not cropping in post.
Do not bisect the frame with the horizon. (Enough said.)
Get it right in the camera. There is an imaginary, thin, meandering gray line separating the photographer from the digital artist. I prefer the title of photographer, others consider themselves digital artist and others don't give a rat's and do what they're gonna do without regard to a label. This topic is just one more thing to think about ... How much manipulation is required to change a photograph into fictional art? How much manipulation is used because the "photog" is too lazy, too incompetent and/or too ignorant, to Get It Right in the camera? What does copious manipulation say of the photographer ... Imagination ... Ineptness ... Unskilled ... Skilled?)

Remember that all rules are situational, use them or not … per your choice. But you need to know them so you can make a choice.

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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #103 on: February 03, 2016, 00:10:07 »
... yes, do it.

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Re: How do you make really great photographs?
« Reply #104 on: February 03, 2016, 00:49:07 »
Gary,

Your work reminds me of Rich Clarkson or Brian Lanker.  Top news and sports photographers for a long time.
Great photo! You must have a really good camera.