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Re: Nikon NX studio
« Reply #90 on: May 31, 2021, 07:11:44 »
NXStudio appears to have a bit of a personality complex.
I re-installed CNX-D a few days ago to do some tests.

I had a folder from last year with images of my brother and I camping.
NXStudio doesn't seem to be consistent in how to display files previously edited by various software .. or more accurately it creates the illusion of inconsistency to the viewer.
In that folder of images I refer too, I used VNX2 as a primary editing tool. I find it's easier to edit for example whitebalance/picture control maybe some exposure .. etc. all in batches where needed on some, most or all images ... depending on image results.
VNX2 as a detailed editor is far too basic, and on some images I then send them to CNX2 for spot editing using for example colour control points here and there.

CNX-D, I used for 'optional' editing on some images .. more as a test for possible switch to this program if I needed too based on camera model purchases.

VNX2 and CNX2 both edit the NEFs with embedded instructions for how to display the NEF and in capable viewing software which depends on the NEF codec installed(ie. Windows Explorer and my use of Windows Photo Gallery).
So edits in VNX2/CNX2 are displayed as were edited .. perfect!

CNX-D as we know uses the sidecar file system and creates a folder(NKSC_PARAM) in the main folder where images are stored and edit steps are stored in .nksc files. Delete those sidecar files and CNX-D edits are gone.
If a file is not edited in CNX-D, the embedded edits are honoured by CNX-D. Once the .nksc file is created CNX-D ignores the embedded edit and uses it's own edit sidecar file.

NXStudio then comes along and it appears to me to honour the latest software edit processes.
That is, if no .nksc edit files are present it honours the embedded edit(VNX2/CNX2) without issue. Displays the rating/label made in those software too.
But if I edit the already edited images in CNX-D too, Studio prefers the CNX-D edit over the embedded edit instead. If I change the rating(already set in VNX2) Studio also maintains the CNX-D rating(if it has been altered).

Delete the NKSC_PARAM folder or individual .nksc sidecar file .. ie. nullifying any CNX-D edits and Studio then reverts back to the VNX2/CNX2 embedded edit. Studio can also revert the VNX2/CNX2 edited image back to it's original unedited state too if required.

I totally forgot that I edited the images in CNX-D in this folder(shot back in June 2020) and couldn't work out why my CNX2 edited images didn't look right in Studio .. then noted the hierarchy preference for displaying NEFs when edited.

@ David: Following on from the ITPC thread, if you used VNX2 to rate and tag your D850 images then used Studio to edit them you shouldn't have any issues. As long as you use Studio to view those images again, and not VNX2.
You should see parity between those two software at least in terms of tagged data, but edited images in Studio(as yet) will not display in that way in VNX2. Nikon seems to have altered the embedded editing method from VNX2/CNX2's embedded method now, in Studio.

As my edits in CNX-D were only ever for testing and maintaining some semblance of contact with the future of Nikon software .. I'm going to do a PC wide search for all NKSC_PARAM directories and delete them all so as to not confuse myself when using VNX2/CNX2 and Studio.
Have to say too, a bit disappointed that Studio will not add tag/keyword data in the same way of old when supposedly embedding it. Hope they will fix that aspect one day.

What happens is that using VNX2 to embed tag data, my Windows workflow works fine. Using EXIFToolGUI one can easily see the embedded XMP and ITPC data entered via those methods. But not the supposedly embedded Studio keyword data.
Where this is supposed to be saved too in the image, and it appears to be saved going only via Studio itself, it's not saved neither in the XMP or IPTC area of the raw files.
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Re: Nikon NX studio
« Reply #91 on: June 08, 2021, 12:35:59 »
Here is an example of what can be done with Color Control Points in NX Studio. In this case I used Capture NX-D since NX Studio requires a newer OS than High Sierra and this old MacBook Pro won't run a newer macOS than High Sierra. As far as I can see the Color Control Points feature is the same in NX Studio as it is in Capture NX-D. I used nine control points to darken features surrounding the artichoke bloom to make the bloom look as though it was in a spotlight. To an extent the bloom was somewhat spotlighted by a Nikon SB-800 but it took the CCP(s) to enhance the effect. Out of the nine sliders offered by CCP I used smaller Size, lower Brightness and less Saturation. I used LCH, master lightness curve to darken the shadows and increase the contrast in the mid tones and high lights and also chroma to lower the saturation of the greens.  A few other tricks were used but the most important was Color Control Points.


Globe Artichoke
by Dave Hartman, on Flickr

The lens used was an AF-S 105/2.8G IF-ED VR Micro-Nikkor. I was standing on stairs so a tripod was out of the question. I used AF-C, continuous servo auto focus and VR. The Artichoke was lit by a hazy sky and a Nikon SB-800 speedlight with a diffusion cap. The SB-800 was on the right and above. I would have had one hell of a time getting anything with my manual focus 105/4.0 AI Micro-Nikkor.

Here is the stright out of camera photo...
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Re: Nikon NX studio
« Reply #92 on: June 08, 2021, 16:55:10 »
Here is an example of what can be done with Color Control Points in NX Studio. In this case I used Capture NX-D since NX Studio requires a newer OS than High Sierra and this old MacBook Pro won't run a newer macOS than High Sierra. As far as I can see the Color Control Points feature is the same in NX Studio as it is in Capture NX-D. I used nine control points to darken features surrounding the artichoke bloom to make the bloom look as though it was in a spotlight. To an extent the bloom was somewhat spotlighted by a Nikon SB-800 but it took the CCP(s) to enhance the effect. Out of the nine sliders offered by CCP I used smaller Size, lower Brightness and less Saturation. I used LCH, master lightness curve to darken the shadows and increase the contrast in the mid tones and high lights and also chroma to lower the saturation of the greens.  A few other tricks were used but the most important was Color Control Points.


Globe Artichoke
by Dave Hartman, on Flickr

The lens used was an AF-S 105/2.8G IF-ED VR Micro-Nikkor. I was standing on stairs so a tripod was out of the question. I used AF-C, continuous servo auto focus and VR. The Artichoke was lit by a hazy sky and a Nikon SB-800 speedlight with a diffusion cap. The SB-800 was on the right and above. I would have had one hell of a time getting anything with my manual focus 105/4.0 AI Micro-Nikkor.

Here is the stright out of camera photo...

It is interesting (to me at least) that I prefer the original shot. It has better tones as well as including the lovely curves in the foliage.

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Re: Nikon NX studio
« Reply #93 on: June 08, 2021, 23:43:10 »
A feature of NX Studio and Capture NX-D that may be under used is the Adjust> Save all adjustments/load adjustments feature>. This allows one to save multiple sets of adjustments for one NEF. The complete suite of adjustments are saved when the user chooses and can be saved with a meaningful name, e.g.D850_DSC2562_ccp.nxd or for the following rendition D850_DSC2562_ccp_lite.nxd (meaningfull to me anyway). Again on the old macOS I'm using Capture NX-D. If I were on a new macOS using NX Studio the file extension would be *.nka. The feature works the same way on NX Studio as on Capture NX-D but they don't read each others files.  :o The only bridge currently between CNXD's *.nxd and NXS' *.nka files is the *.nksc side car files.

In the following version of this photo I've backed off the Color Control Points' negative brightness settings to reduce the darkening of the periphery, removed the LCH master lightness curve and there is almost no crop, just a sliver on the left. The Save all adjustments/Load adjustments feature allows me to save as many sets of adjustments as I like. I always include the NEF file name as a part of these adjustment files' name.

I'm using the old MacBook Pro because it has a very good display. The alternative is a school loaner HP Probook with a display that totally sucks.

Dave


Globe Artichoke, alternate processing
by Dave Hartman, on Flickr
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Re: Nikon NX studio
« Reply #94 on: June 09, 2021, 00:35:26 »
What happens is that using VNX2 to embed tag data, my Windows workflow works fine. Using EXIFToolGUI one can easily see the embedded XMP and ITPC data entered via those methods. But not the supposedly embedded Studio keyword data.
Where this is supposed to be saved too in the image, and it appears to be saved going only via Studio itself, it's not saved neither in the XMP or IPTC area of the raw files.

NX Studio is saving the XMP/IPCT metadata in the *.nksc sidecar files in the NKSC_PARAM folder. The lack of standards on where and how XMP/IPCT metadata is stored is making a mess.  :o :o :o

Dave

I may try installing ViewNX2 in Yosemite and then copy and paste the app and it's library support files into High Sierra. I'd prefer a modern and supported app that can embed the XMP/IPCT data in the NEF that runs on the macOS. Which macOS is the 64,000 Dollar question.  ???

I'm finding Adobe Bridge over-heats this old MacBook Pro.  :o :o
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Re: Nikon NX studio
« Reply #95 on: June 09, 2021, 04:18:09 »
In the following version of this photo I've backed off the Color Control Points' negative brightness settings to reduce the darkening of the periphery, removed the LCH master lightness curve and there is almost no crop, just a sliver on the left. The Save all adjustments/Load adjustments feature allows me to save as many sets of adjustments as I like. I always include the NEF file name as a part of these adjustment files' name.

I'm using the old MacBook Pro because it has a very good display. The alternative is a school loaner HP Probook with a display that totally sucks.

Dave

I think the green in the foliage in the original offsets the purple in the center. I'm saying this after viewing on a few different screens.