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chris dees

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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #75 on: November 02, 2016, 16:37:13 »
Well, the price of the 17mm TS-E from Canon has fallen about 28% since its original launch.  I would expect a similar trend for the Nikon 19mm over the longer term.

I noticed the 300 PF has fallen from 2200€ to 1600€ locally, in just 1.5 years since launch.

The 24-70E was 2600€ at launch and now 1900€.

Early buyers pay a heavy premium.

No price fall for those lenses over here. ???
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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #76 on: November 03, 2016, 06:26:08 »
I've never done a formal lens review, but I can sure say that I'm loving this lens so far!

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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #77 on: November 03, 2016, 09:13:10 »
Then it's about time you start making reviews! ;)
Congratulations btw!
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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #78 on: November 03, 2016, 09:31:13 »
Then it's about time you start making reviews! ;)
Congratulations btw!

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Please share your thoughts of it and some photos as well.

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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2016, 00:06:34 »
Hopefully I can get some photos up soon.  :)
Right away I can say how much more pronounced the effects of all the movements are compared to my (very enjoyable) 85mm PC
I miss the manual aperture ring of the former, currently my commelite adapter to put this on my Sony A7rii for full frame goodness is stuck at f4...
On my D500, this is a joy to use.
No issues with clearance on the camera.
Being able to adjust the axis of tilt and shift independently is awesome!
Because the hinge axis distance is dependent on the focal length you can get near and far objects in focus much easier than with the 85.  Because of the narrower field of view, if you have the focus plane parallel to the lens optical axis (perpendicular to the focal plane of a traditional lens - perfect for pointing the lens horizontal and having a horizontal plane in focus to infinity - as if I were at the Bonneville salt flats, for instance) the focal plane is 60cm below the camera at 8.5 degrees of tilt focus at infinity on the 85.  That plane doesn't intersect the field of view for several meters so the distant mountains cant be sharp as well as a very nearby flower.  At 19mm, even though it only tilts to 7.5 degrees, that horizontal plane is only 6 inches below the camera, and with the wide FoV sharp objects can be inches away and in focus, along with those distant mountains!  It is amazing.  Shift is also similarly exaggerated.  The close focus untilted is very nice too. 

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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #80 on: November 04, 2016, 09:57:29 »
Could you share some full frame images? Thanks.
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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #82 on: November 04, 2016, 18:20:52 »
Aha - familiar scenes so I can compare with better understanding as to what the lens can or cannot accomplish.

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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #83 on: November 04, 2016, 18:22:14 »
Thanks,

The outdoor church image has some CA that can easily be removed, but it's there; Purple fringing and green, look upper edge and upper right leaves,,,

The image quality on the D810 is perfect as far as I can see,,,
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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #84 on: November 04, 2016, 19:59:26 »
Hopefully I can find some subjects as pretty as those this weekend!
I'll post some cropped and some full frame, but FF will all be at f4 only as my adapter doesn't allow me to control the aperture and my Nikon bodies are all crop sensors.

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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #85 on: November 05, 2016, 05:53:48 »
i've only had the 19 for a few hours, but i love it! the new design with the independent shift/tilt axes is really simple and easy, and the new shift knob is much easier to grab blindly and also much easier to keep in place thanks to the absence of the tensioner/lock.

i only had a few minutes to shoot in between meetings this afternoon, but here's a couple, all of unremarkable subjects around my office.








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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #86 on: November 05, 2016, 05:55:34 »
these are torture tests of a sort, shifted the full distance or nearly the full distance on the long axis, and often shooting into the light. sharpness around the full image circle is improved from the 24mm, but not absolutely perfect. i definitely saw some CA, but it cleaned up easily and certainly far less than the 24mm.

the only question now is whether to sell the 24 or keep both. hmmmmm

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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #87 on: November 05, 2016, 06:42:18 »
Looks good.  The sharpness decline at the extreme edges seems better managed than the 24 PCE I had for a while. 
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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #88 on: November 05, 2016, 07:38:27 »
Looks very good
Thanks

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Re: PC 19mm f/4 E ED
« Reply #89 on: November 05, 2016, 08:58:14 »
Thank you for the samples! And congratulations, it seem 'we' have two 19mm PC-E already  ;D
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