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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #150 on: November 07, 2016, 07:03:36 »
USB-C should be able to daisy-chain devices right?
USB Type-C is just the connector. I believe both USB and Thunderbolt is able to daisy chain.

That reminds me: Watch out for bad USB Type-C cables! Someone on Reddit made a spreadsheet that gives a nice overview: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/

This is based on Benson Leung's Amazon reviews. Benson Leung is part of the Google Pixel team: https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/LH4PPgVrKVN

All his reviews can be seen here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp

Worst case scenario is getting your laptop fried: https://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R2XDBFUD9CTN2R?ref_=glimp_1rv_cl
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #151 on: November 07, 2016, 09:02:08 »
I get worried when even 'IT experts' are uncertain if something will work,,, ;)

Thanks Jørgen! JA already also warned about the cheap cables - Interesting,,,
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #152 on: November 07, 2016, 11:17:19 »
From what I understand, you can connect the new MacBook Pro's to one of the new LG 5k monitors and it'll drive the display and it will charge your laptop at the same time. The display works as a hub too.
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #153 on: November 07, 2016, 11:43:11 »
Thanks Jørgen. From what I hear the LG panels are state of the art,,, have not even seen one yet - If they really are that good they are very reasonable priced,,,
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #154 on: November 07, 2016, 18:36:27 »
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=EXPfSopuMIQ

New Macbook Pro can't walk & chew gum at same time(watch wifi + USB = fail)

has anyone see this fail ???
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #155 on: November 07, 2016, 19:08:44 »
I only watched the first 10 minutes and clearly he found some kind of bug. The bug could also be in the adapter, who knows? If it's a problem with the MacBook, I'm sure Apple will fix it.
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #156 on: November 07, 2016, 19:55:25 »
From what I understand, you can connect the new MacBook Pro's to one of the new LG 5k monitors and it'll drive the display and it will charge your laptop at the same time. The display works as a hub too.
That is correct, those are btw also discounted for the time being to help with the USB-C / Thunderbolt 3 transition  ;D

The 5K version with built in 85W charger:
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/HKN62LL/A/lg-ultrafine-5k-display?fnode=8a

And a 4K version with a built in 60W charger:
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/HKMY2LL/A/lg-ultrafine-4k-display?fnode=8a

The 13" MBP comes with a 60W charger and the 15" with a 87W charger in the box, the 4K screen will charge the 15" MBP's but might not have enough power to keep it topped off while in use.
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #157 on: November 07, 2016, 20:04:06 »
Apparently, USB Type-C cannot be daisy chained in the original sense of the word, where a single connecting cable runs between devices down the chain. 
Multiple devices can be connected through the use of added hubs.  More to buy, more spaghetti...
Thunderbolt was limited to 6 downstream devices on the Macbook Pro laptops;  I don't know if this a Thunderbolt(Intel) limit or an Apple limit.
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #158 on: November 07, 2016, 20:29:16 »
I only watched the first 10 minutes and clearly he found some kind of bug. The bug could also be in the adapter, who knows? If it's a problem with the MacBook, I'm sure Apple will fix it.

I am also wondering if it isnt the adapter - since there has been some ramblings about adapters not working properly with the MBP's
I assume going for the Apple adapter (which is on special) is the only way to go
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #159 on: November 07, 2016, 20:37:43 »
Okey so apparently even the Apple adapters are not that great -
http://www.apple.com/shop/reviews/MJ1K2AM/A/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #160 on: November 07, 2016, 20:57:54 »
Maybe USB-C isn't a mature technology yet? I read through some of the user reviews and they were horrible entertainment to say the least.

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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #161 on: November 07, 2016, 21:18:11 »
Thanks for the updates on displays and USB-C  :D
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #162 on: November 07, 2016, 21:34:26 »
I have an impression of the connector in general falling victim of cost cut, especially the newer small ones like micro USB, micro HDMI, etc.  They are too flimsy in the first place.  Even the SD card slot of my MacBook Air I used last year was not very good and sometimes failed to recognize the inserted card.

USB-C connector should be of no exception.
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #163 on: November 08, 2016, 05:28:07 »
thing is - do you keep buying adapters till you find one which DOES work and dont cause wifi + USB fail
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Re: Rumor: New MacBooks enroute
« Reply #164 on: November 08, 2016, 06:41:48 »
I'm sure the internet will tell you which one to buy :)
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