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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #135 on: November 08, 2021, 17:05:59 »
I think there is a positive response to the Z fc for users of the Df.

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #136 on: November 08, 2021, 22:50:49 »
A quick demonstration of what the Viltrox 56mm f/1.4 can deliver. Taken at f/1.4 ISO 100 hand-held and run through Photo Ninja with every option turned off. NX Studio delivers better and truer colours as it knows all about the Z fc, while PN hardly know anything other than the pixel dimension of the NEF. Nonetheless, the result delivered by PN is clearly "better" in terms of image clarity and micro tonality, although colours are a little off (too much red etc.). Until PN has a profile for Z fc, I have to build session profiles, or just ignore the colour inaccuracy.

Anyway, the entire frame, then 100% crop. Focus by AF on the white picket fence. It is almost unbelievable this is f/1.4 with a modestly priced lens.

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #137 on: November 09, 2021, 22:01:03 »
Seems excellent!
The question is: are these lens going to completely substitute your full frame Z camera and lens?

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #138 on: November 09, 2021, 22:43:53 »
Of course not. It's all about having the right tool for the task at hand.

I happen to like using the Z fc, just as I took the Df in from the cold as it were and have shoot most of my leisure photography with it since November, 2013.

The arrival of these Viltrox lenses is a clear indication the company has successfully reverse-engineered the Z protocol to give their lenses the highest degree of compatibility with native Z lenses. Combine that with the ability to make good optical designs at affordable prices and all of us can benefit.



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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #139 on: November 09, 2021, 23:21:58 »
Assume you also have the 50/1.8 S-line?

When will the 56/1.4 be used over the 50/1.8?
For 1.4 use only?     .....the extra 6mm focal length does not mean a lot?

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #140 on: November 09, 2021, 23:57:16 »
The Viltox 56mm is dwarfed by any of the native Z S-Line lenses. The latter do not balance well on the small Z fc. The 35mm f/1.8 S-Line is passable, though, but I prefer lenses that are smaller.

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #141 on: November 10, 2021, 00:11:36 »
Ok, the Viltox is a "DX-lens" and quite small compared to the 50/1.8 S-line.

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #142 on: November 10, 2021, 08:37:05 »
Now wish they make a 15mm, or 24mm equivalent.

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #143 on: November 10, 2021, 09:09:45 »
Ok, the Viltox is a "DX-lens" and quite small compared to the 50/1.8 S-line.

1/3 the size. And 2/3 stop "faster".

Laowa has plenty of wide-angle lenses 15mm or shorter in native Z mount, but no AF. Their lenses are quite small and compact, though, and well made.

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #144 on: November 11, 2021, 19:08:31 »
Well, I have no shortage of AI /AIS lenses lined up and waiting to try themselves out on this delightful little camera body, but I do have one request:  is it possible to set it up in similar manner as I have done with my beloved df; I can shift between auto ISO and manual ISO without going into Menu( button and wheel) and scrabbling through the headings looking for ISO sensitivity control to change things, and I hope someone can give me the short-cut solution for quick changes, or am I doomed to failure because of that missing second button on the front?

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #145 on: November 11, 2021, 22:02:02 »
1/3 the size. And 2/3 stop "faster".
And 1/3 the price ;)

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #146 on: November 11, 2021, 22:45:20 »
...or am I doomed to failure because of that missing second button on the front?

The Nikon Z fc was designed for who it was designed for. I need another function button also. I'm not the Nikon Z fc's target customer.

Dave

Perhaps there will be a somewhat bigger FX camera similar to the Z fc? I need a second function button and I need in body image stabilization for AI and AIS lenses of 135mm focal length and shorter. It's time for me to wait.
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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #147 on: November 11, 2021, 23:23:35 »
Unfortunately, I'm not the target customer either, Dave, I'm eighty-two next birthday, if I'm lucky :D  If Nikon offered the option on the button that is already there I'd graciously accept it.

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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #148 on: November 11, 2021, 23:45:24 »
Now wish they make a 15mm, or 24mm equivalent.
Hi Fons. here’s a nice summary of most ultra wide angle lenses available for mirrorless:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/user-guide-ultra-wideangle-lenses-sony-alpha-7-series/

The majority is also available for Z mount or is easily adapted.
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Re: Z fc - the thread
« Reply #149 on: November 11, 2021, 23:52:14 »
Thank you, JA yes i am familiar with Philip Reeve, on nikons time line for the z mount a wide angle zoom for the dx format is also in the pipeline.