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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #165 on: August 24, 2018, 21:03:49 »
Best EVF so far (quote by one of my friends who have tried them all).

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #166 on: August 24, 2018, 21:10:16 »
....
http://www.rossharvey.com/reviews/nikon-z7-review

he really liked the camera / lens

When I buy one, it'll be the lower res one, z6, or whatever the model is at the time I get it
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #167 on: August 24, 2018, 21:15:33 »
Could you explain how this works a bit more? Is there an easy way to magnify the viewfinder image without taking one's eyes off ? Reading the description given in the brochure it doesn't sound like this is possible?

The brochure says:

You can zoom in on the image to confirm focus in detail by pressing the zoom in button before shooting.

Thanks and Regards
I guess it would be very similar to the Sony's.

With native lenses one can choose wether the EVF should or should not zoom in automatically when the focus-ring is turned.

For adapted lenses which don't feed back the focus distance to the camera I've assigned one of the custom buttons to trigger the zoom mode, one press gives me a red square in the middle of the EVF which I can move around and a second press enlarges the area previously selected. Half pressing the shutter returns the image back to normal for the final adjustments of the composition.
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #168 on: August 24, 2018, 21:18:58 »
I guess it would be very similar to the Sony's.

With native lenses one can choose wether the EVF should or should not zoom in automatically when the focus-ring is turned.

For adapted lenses which don't feed back the focus distance to the camera I've assigned one of the custom buttons to trigger the zoom mode, one press gives me a red square in the middle of the EVF which I can move around and a second press enlarges the area previously selected. Half pressing the shutter returns the image back to normal for the final framing of the composition.

Yes I have a Sony A7 and I can use a button to enlarge focus while looking through the viewfinder. But the description of the brochure seemed to imply you need to zoom in before hand and then shoot ... I sincerely hope that the zoom can be assigned to af-on and one doesn't need to take eye off the viewfinder.

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #169 on: August 24, 2018, 21:20:09 »
Best EVF so far (quote by one of my friends who have tried them all).
Sten, I thought you were our friend whom tried them all  ;D
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #170 on: August 24, 2018, 21:24:07 »
Could you explain how this works a bit more? Is there an easy way to magnify the viewfinder image without taking one's eyes off ? Reading the description given in the brochure it doesn't sound like this is possible?

The brochure says:

You can zoom in on the image to confirm focus in detail by pressing the zoom in button before shooting.

Thanks and Regards

I only used direct visual focusing with or without focus peaking. Either way, the image of say a Micro-Nikkor 55/3.5 snapped satisfactorily in and out of focus even under the abysmal light conditions at the press event.

My guess is that in the multitude of options available, there is one to do what you're asking for.

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #171 on: August 24, 2018, 21:31:37 »
I was already quite happy with the focussing modes offered by the OM-D, a great improvement in comparison with the ground glass and (useless) focus confirmation dot of, yes, even the Df. Z6/7 can only be better, in other words: quite satisfactory.

Try to use the focus confirmation dot with a Reflex Nikkor. Ha ha. Ground glass is already better, but 500/8 yields a dim image.
I know, that's an extreme case of course.
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #172 on: August 24, 2018, 21:33:54 »
Where did you get this info from?

One of the places I read this is:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-z7-first-impressions-review/2

Hopefully fake news...

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #173 on: August 24, 2018, 21:39:05 »
Auto magnification (by turning the focus ring) with the A7rIII in combination with native lenses (among them the MF e-mount Voigtlanders) works really very well. Of course disadvantage is that during focussing the whole picture overview is lost.

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #174 on: August 24, 2018, 21:40:52 »
Dominated by marketing jargon etc, but this official document on the Nikon website gives more context and information:

https://cdn-4.nikon-cdn.com/e/Q5NM96RZZo-RRZZFeeMiveET0gVQ--AxJI7g-xcLVNVcp7mdwZQz5w==/Misc/Z_Engineer_Interview_Brochure.pdf

note significant emphasis on "Nikkor S" - "At the top of the NIKKOR Z mount lineup are lenses that were developed in pursuit of a higher level of optical performance: the S-Line. Specifically, the highest-quality Noct enables forms of image creation that nobody has experienced before.....  S-Line lenses deliver a level of optical performance that meets not only current requirements, but also those of the next generation. S-Line lenses incorporate features and specifications that photographers demand from a high-quality lens.  .... Technological advances will further increase pixel counts and push image processing technologies forward. That will demand even more sophisticated optical performance. Based on this assumption, we developed these lenses with an extremely high level of performance – That’s the S-Line.....  S-Line lenses are designed to deliver outstanding optical performance, so photographers can choose them with confidence, knowing they will keep responding to their image creation needs well into the future"

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #175 on: August 24, 2018, 21:47:51 »
For a lot of people 1 card slot is not a dealbreaker, but for me it is.
I had once a card failure during a wedding shoot and boy I was happy I shot with 2 cards in "back-up mode". It saved my ass.
It happened only once, but I wil never do a commercial event/wedding shoot or "Once in a lifetime travel" with only 1 card in camera.

There a couple of other things I don't like, such as fps restrictions, buffer capacity.

The Z6 could replace my Df. ;)

Shooting with two cards means you are twice as likely to have a card fail. This is the way math works.

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #176 on: August 24, 2018, 22:00:32 »
Dominated by marketing jargon etc, but this official document on the Nikon website gives more context and information:

https://cdn-4.nikon-cdn.com/e/Q5NM96RZZo-RRZZFeeMiveET0gVQ--AxJI7g-xcLVNVcp7mdwZQz5w==/Misc/Z_Engineer_Interview_Brochure.pdf


Interesting read, the description of the Noct is truly mouth watering.

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #177 on: August 24, 2018, 22:19:32 »
I challenged several Nikon reps on that ridiculous statement "f/1.8 is f/1.4" and got no substantial backing for the claim. Which is not surprising as it is sheer nonsense. Probably a dimwit in a marketing department made it up.

Could it be that the dimwit has come to the conclusion that the Z-mount being "25% larger than the F-mount" corresponds to a different aperture?

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #178 on: August 24, 2018, 22:32:37 »
Could it be that the dimwit has come to the conclusion that the Z-mount being "25% larger than the F-mount" corresponds to a different aperture?

Weirder conclusions have been put forward before. Still no foundation in reality.

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #179 on: August 24, 2018, 23:00:05 »
One of the places I read this is:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-z7-first-impressions-review/2

Hopefully fake news...
Same here, would be a real impediment for me personally.

Quote from: DPReview
Sadly the company also says that it won't be sharing the technical details of the mount, preferring to protect sales of its own lenses at the expense of creating of a more inviting, wider ecosystem. So, unlike Micro Four Thirds and Sony E-Mount, third-party makers will have to reverse-engineer the Z mount.

Attached an overview of my current lens lineup for the a7RII:
- Voigtlander 15/4.5 FE, would like to see the 10, 12 and 15mm versions in the Zee mount
- Sony Zeiss 35/1.4 FE, though I'm a big fan of 1.2 and 1.4 lenses the Z35.1.8 should do for now
- Nikkor 50/1.2, can be adapted with the FTZ adapter or a Leica M adapter (split adapters)
- Canon 85/1.2 FD, also with split adapter so can be adapted with a dumb Leica M adapter which should be cheap and available soon
- Voigtlander 125/2.5 APO EF using an electronic Metabones adapter, the fully electronic Canon EF version should make it future proof for mirrorless use IF an electronic adapter becomes available
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