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Ilkka Nissilä

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #285 on: August 22, 2018, 15:31:02 »
I would imagine it has in body stabilization of some kind, for the same logic (24-70/4 does not appear to be stabilized in the lens).

However, additional moving parts are a source of possible failures / repair bills later on and in-camera stabilization is linked to overheating in extended video recording in hot conditions and increase in long exposure noise over prolonged periods of use. Furthermore I would imagine there to be some increase in power consumption when the sensor has to be actively held in place at all times.

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #286 on: August 22, 2018, 16:14:45 »
Nothing from Lloyd Chambers or Thom Hogan over the past week or so on their websites. I'll bet they're evaluating advance copies and will be giving preliminary reports shortly.

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #287 on: August 22, 2018, 16:30:02 »
Birna is quiet too...

Please compare to Df if possible. That is what I’d look to supersede with a Z6.

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #288 on: August 22, 2018, 16:45:13 »
No as ugly as I thought it would be!  But still ugly compared with the Df.  Nikon's best kept secret is the base plate.  What will we see there?  A Df style fall off type  battery door? One or two card slots? Tomorrow all will be revealed.

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #289 on: August 22, 2018, 17:06:48 »
Considering Nikon's past history on offering VR kit lenses with most cameras of this model level ... I'd say the probability would be higher that it has IBIS rather than not.
If no IBIS, I'd have expected a 24-70/4 VR lens.

If no IBIS and no stabilised lenses on initial offering, this then becomes a 'marketing liability' for them.
Considering the market segment the new cameras are aimed at, where every competitor has stabilization across most if not the entire range .. won't be a good intro.

So, hopefully it'll have IBIS.

That is unless instead of the "S" being silent wave motor, it is "S" for "stabilized".  Maybe they are changing the nomenclature from VR.
I'm hoping it is 5-axis IBIS, but if they stabilize all the lenses that is a way to go as well.   I'd love to be able to use some of my older AI-s lenses with IBIS like I do on my m43 cameras.
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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #290 on: August 22, 2018, 17:26:26 »
From NR:
Nikon Z7

    45.7 MP back-illuminated CMOS
    EXPEED 6
    The hybrid AF system covers about 90% of the imaging area
    Continuous: 9 frames / sec
    3.2" touchscreen
    Recording medium: XQD card
    Size: 134 x 100.5 x 67.5 mm
    Weight: 675 g
    British pricing: body:£3399, lens kit:£3499, 24-70mm kit:£3999, 24-70mm + FTZ:£4099


Read more: https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/22/nikon-z7-mirrorless-cameras-specifications-and-uk-pricing.aspx/#ixzz5OvAi5Y6O

The UK price for the D850 is around £3500..
Also interesting to see that the Z6 has 273 AF points vs. 493 for the Z7.

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #291 on: August 22, 2018, 18:37:11 »

Also interesting to see that the Z6 has 273 AF points vs. 493 for the Z7.

Both are .09 AF points per Mpix. I anticipate that the Z7 has same spread, just more density.


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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #292 on: August 22, 2018, 18:57:54 »
The “A - M” text on the lens switches, which reads “M/A - M” on AF-S lenses, suggests that combined manual and autofocus is not possible. That would really be a bummer.

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #293 on: August 22, 2018, 19:11:28 »
Birna wil report back tomorrow 0700 UTC+2. I'll respect the NDA.

Accordingly I shall not answer direct questions before the deadline.

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #294 on: August 22, 2018, 19:18:00 »
The “A - M” text on the lens switches, which reads “M/A - M” on AF-S lenses, suggests that combined manual and autofocus is not possible. That would really be a bummer.

I always though the M/A - M text was overly complicated. A - M are enough, no matter how it functions.

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #295 on: August 22, 2018, 19:31:27 »
Assuming you'll get both the Z6 and Z7 how do you differentiate the bodies in actual daily use (without looking up the Z6 or Z7 on the body front)?
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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #296 on: August 22, 2018, 19:32:31 »
Looking forward to Birna’s review. Must wait to next week to fondle the new thing. ;)

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #297 on: August 22, 2018, 19:41:42 »
Assuming you'll get both the Z6 and Z7 how do you differentiate the bodies in actual daily use (without looking up the Z6 or Z7 on the body front)?

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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #298 on: August 22, 2018, 19:47:12 »
Adobe just updated Lightroom/Photoshop CC, but the updated ACR doesn't support Z7 or Z6 (or Panasonic LX100II) yet...

https://www.dpreview.com/news/8530681603/adobe-updates-lightroom-cc-lightroom-classic-cc-and-camera-raw
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Re: Arrival of Nikon mirrorless (finally!)
« Reply #299 on: August 22, 2018, 19:52:38 »
Also interesting to see that the Z6 has 273 AF points vs. 493 for the Z7.
Similar to the Sony a7III vs the a7RIII, besides the MP and AF sensor differences I hope the body will be the same for both models as with the early Sony the basic model was mainly made of plastics while the high MP model was made of magnesium.
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