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MILLIREHM

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Re: When my Df dies, I will...
« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2018, 20:31:24 »
I give the Z7 priority because there will rarely be a camera with more resolution soon, but probably a Z8 or Z9 with more speed capability will top the Z6 in the near future. But that  should be subject of further discussion in another thread. In the meantime it is clear that we wont see a Df2.
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Re: When my Df dies, I will...
« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2018, 01:06:39 »
MILLIREHM, your statement, "It is clear. . . . Df." suggests you mean NEVER, and 007 taught me to say "NEVER SAY NEVER!" It's not the perfect  camera, but for my needs, it's a long way ahead of what comes in second place. For me, a revised Df would be the same old Df with a few things omitted, not added.

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« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2018, 01:37:40 »
I'd like a Df which was a tad more robust. Otherwise nothing is amiss really. Thus when this Df dies (it's my second unit as the first one  disintegrated completely in a mishap), I'll get another of the same kind.

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« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2018, 06:13:33 »
Perhaps it is a function of our early influences. My F2 was fun and a delight to handle. However, I found myself reaching for my F100 in preference. My wish is for a D850 with 24 megapixels.

There is no harm in dreaming  8)

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« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2018, 14:59:45 »
MILLIREHM, your statement, "It is clear. . . . Df." suggests you mean NEVER, and 007 taught me to say "NEVER SAY NEVER!" It's not the perfect  camera, but for my needs, it's a long way ahead of what comes in second place. For me, a revised Df would be the same old Df with a few things omitted, not added.

You are right in "Never say never"
So what i meant was that it is clear to me, that it wont fly in the upcoming near future. Why I think so?

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https://nikonrumors.com/2017/09/15/new-interview-with-tetsuro-goto-from-nikon-full-frame-is-the-trend-if-nikon-will-go-mirrorless-it-must-be-full-frame.aspx/

Tetsuro Goto was  saying

"On successor of Df in Nikon 100 Year Anniversary: the company position is that it needs Df sales volume increase to justify the investment of developing Df successor. Although Df reviews are very good buy overall sales volume is not. If we don’t buy the Df now, it’s hard to expect a Df successor. If you like Df, please buy it now. Personally I have been thinking about Df successor, not like the Df now but more retro style. Design drawings and the overall product design are ready."

so the sales were not justifying an immediate follow-up even then.

Now Nikon is focussing its energy on the Z-series launch. D5, Df and Z7 are produced in Sendai, actually production runs for the Z7 only with the other two halted.
Nikons developing and production capabilities are limited and does not allow infinite parallel releases at the same time.

The Z-hype has breaked out or at least Nikon tries to foster it because they want to sell a new system. There is no D5S out there (which usually had to be expected for this year) and we dont know when a D6 will come. Some even dont see it for sure that there will be a D5 successor on the F-mount flagship slot. Probably Nikon is planning it but who knows what the market does,will Z be a flop or a landslide or something in between.

Finally I conclude that the chances for refreshing the niche product Df weren't too high but have decreased. I'd prefer to be proven wrong.

 

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Re: When my Df dies, I will...
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2018, 17:35:21 »
" it is clear to me, that it wont fly in the upcoming near future."  Yes, I would NEVER say you are wrong in that one! And WHEN it comes, (NEVER say NEVER) pray it is as simple , as reliable, as robust as the F2 series.

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Re: When my Df dies, I will...
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2018, 23:58:20 »
It cant be as simple as an F2, it is a digital body. On the other hand the F2 is way more complicated in its mechanics ;-)
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Re: When my Df dies, I will...
« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2018, 10:39:01 »
The Df has tempted me intermittently for years.
Is continued resistance futile?

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« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2018, 12:09:05 »
You know that it is!  ;D

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Re: When my Df dies, I will...
« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2018, 12:23:02 »
A matter of taste, for sure - since 2014, the Df has become my daily gear. As good as it may be, my D800 is my backup camera...
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Re: When my Df dies, I will...
« Reply #70 on: September 09, 2018, 12:47:10 »
After some income tax surprise, The Z7 will have to wait for a while. But my faithful and workhorse Df is getting seriously worn out (mostly cosmetic) and when I inquired recently for a photographer friend (still on film) it seems not so easy to get a "new" Df in Paris (he wanted a brand new one).
I'm a bit afraid of the Df's fate, hoping some are still in stock somewhere  ???
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« Reply #71 on: September 09, 2018, 13:39:59 »
I saw two days ago a brand new df (black) for sale on a respectable store in Granada. Full price of course at some 2800 €, so there is still hope for your friend

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« Reply #72 on: September 09, 2018, 14:13:12 »
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I'm a bit afraid of the Df's fate, hoping some are still in stock somewhere  ???

My Nikon dealer still has brand new Df cameras listed.

Apparently the Df owners cling to their cameras, as few Df bodies enter the second-hand market.

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« Reply #73 on: September 09, 2018, 14:53:30 »
They do. Price for second-hand are stuck at around 1500€ for a long time now if you happend to find one here

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Re: When my Df dies, I will...
« Reply #74 on: September 09, 2018, 16:40:09 »
A large electronics and home appliances retailer had  DFs on sale in Singapore recently for as low as USD 1450. I m pretty certain most were sold out. Maybe they were getting rid of old inventory.