Nikon D5

[Marco Lanciani]

The USB port in the camera is less robust than the card slot...

I noticed this when using external devices, like a Promote Control. In this case the cable will give inevitably more stress on the port during use.
When transfering to the computer I try to use maximum care to insert/pull the cable (and the camera is sitting on the table), may be the same care someone else use with the card, but the card is still double stressed: once in the camera, once in the reader. The in-camera USB port only once.

Either way, I think, only care is a good recipe and let's hope for the best. 

[Ilkka Nissilä]

i don't understand why someone would pay seven thousand for a camera and then save on memory cards?

I don't understand why one would throw away money on something they don't need and get no tangible benefit from (even 25% of 200 shots is 50 shots which is enough for any situation I might run into).  It's equivalent to drawing 1500€ from the ATM and just setting the notes on fire.  My CF cards are already plenty fast enough for my needs and they work on my other cameras which I also need when shooting an event. Also there is the matter of supporting reasonable efforts in standardization. XQD has negligible market share and the companies who use it don't seem very committed to it since they don't use it across the lineup even in cameras that would benefit from the specifications.  Also, Canon, Sandisk etc. do not have any XQD products which is enough to bury the others' half-hearted efforts.

Nothing loses value quite as fast as memory cards. When I got my first digital SLR, I paid 300€ per 1GB for memory cards. They were fast for their time.

Now, if you need the D5 for its speed and intend to use the 200-image buffer, it makes perfect sense to get the XQD version and however much fast storage you need. It may make sense for resale value purposes in either case. However, in my opinion memory card formats should be standardized across the industry this is the only way to get reasonable prices.

So that there is no misunderstanding, I have nothing against XQD but my complaint is about the lack of proper standardization.

[Mike G]

Marco are you saying that your camera shows up on your computer as a disk drive?
What sort of computer system are you using?

My D810 does not show as a disk but the cards do when accessed out of the camera i.e. via a card reader or via the SD slot on the back of the iMac!

Cheers Mike G

[Marco Lanciani]

I do use an iMac. And Lr.

Lr automatically recognize the card as a disk the moment you turn the camera on.
Don't know if this works with other applications.

[elsa hoffmann]

I don't understand why one would throw away money on something they don't need and get no tangible benefit from (even 25% of 200 shots is 50 shots which is enough for any situation I might run into).  It's equivalent to drawing 1500€ from the ATM and just setting the notes on fire.  My CF cards are already plenty fast enough for my needs and they work on my other cameras which I also need when shooting an event. Also there is the matter of supporting reasonable efforts in standardization. XQD has negligible market share and the companies who use it don't seem very committed to it since they don't use it across the lineup even in cameras that would benefit from the specifications.  Also, Canon, Sandisk etc. do not have any XQD products which is enough to bury the others' half-hearted efforts.

Nothing loses value quite as fast as memory cards. When I got my first digital SLR, I paid 300€ per 1GB for memory cards. They were fast for their time.

Now, if you need the D5 for its speed and intend to use the 200-image buffer, it makes perfect sense to get the XQD version and however much fast storage you need. It may make sense for resale value purposes in either case. However, in my opinion memory card formats should be standardised across the industry this is the only way to get reasonable prices.

So that there is no misunderstanding, I have nothing against XQD but my complaint is about the lack of proper standardisation.

totally agree. I mean really - ANOTHER card format? Getting to be like Apple - every new device has a new port/plug/charger - $$$$ and lots to add to land fill.

[Mike G]

Thank you Marco, I too have Lr recognise the camera, I had mistakenly thought you meant something else!

[Akira]

Thank you Marco, I too have Lr recognise the camera, I had mistakenly thought you meant something else!

Mike, the camera should have a menu item to set it as "mass storage" so that the camera is recognized as hard drive when you connect it to your computer (Mac or PC).

[Mike G]

Akira that is no longer true, that facility stopped with the D300s.

A distant memory on my D810!

[Akira]

Akira that is no longer true, that facility stopped with the D300s.

A distant memory on my D810!

Really?  My D7000 had the item, if I remember correctly.  My current Olympus (hit the shelf las year) has it even with more options including "auto".  So Nikon bodies are all set to auto maybe?

[Anthony]

D3s and D800 are without Mass Storage.  Although they are not recognised as disks on a Mac, Image Capture (part of OSX) recognises them and can be used for downloading straight from the camera.

[Jakov Minić]

totally agree. I mean really - ANOTHER card format? Getting to be like Apple - every new device has a new port/plug/charger - $$$$ and lots to add to land fill.

 

I don't understand why one would throw away money on something they don't need and get no tangible benefit from (even 25% of 200 shots is 50 shots which is enough for any situation I might run into).  It's equivalent to drawing 1500€ from the ATM and just setting the notes on fire.  My CF cards are already plenty fast enough for my needs and they work on my other cameras which I also need when shooting an event. Also there is the matter of supporting reasonable efforts in standardization. XQD has negligible market share and the companies who use it don't seem very committed to it since they don't use it across the lineup even in cameras that would benefit from the specifications.  Also, Canon, Sandisk etc. do not have any XQD products which is enough to bury the others' half-hearted efforts.

Nothing loses value quite as fast as memory cards. When I got my first digital SLR, I paid 300€ per 1GB for memory cards. They were fast for their time.

Now, if you need the D5 for its speed and intend to use the 200-image buffer, it makes perfect sense to get the XQD version and however much fast storage you need. It may make sense for resale value purposes in either case. However, in my opinion memory card formats should be standardized across the industry this is the only way to get reasonable prices.

So that there is no misunderstanding, I have nothing against XQD but my complaint is about the lack of proper standardization.

The XQD cards have been introduced with the D4 so it's not really that new.
And even then, Nikon offered two different slots, the other being for CF cards.

I am all in for standardization and it seems that CF cards are becoming the past and that XQD are the future.
I see a D5 as a no compromise camera, only the best features and best specs, hence XQD cards.

My initial point was, if you can afford a D5, you should be able to afford new memory cards.
If you want to drive a W12 engine car you should be able to afford the fuel costs.

If you don't need the speed of the D5, do you really need a D5 then?
I don't need a W12 engine car, but a V8 will do me just nicely

Never have there been so many good cameras out there from all brands.
 

[MILLIREHM]

Yes oneshould not save money atthe wrong place and have a slow card be the bottleneck
But look, I am running my D4S on a single CF card, which is faster than the S and N Series QXDs available when the D4 came out.
So I need a G series to be faster (does not make sense to pay more bucks for a slower card does it?). My dealer doesnot offer it, my preferred online dealer does not have it in stock currently, its so expensive that one is lusted to wait for the prices come down a little bit. Iam sure there is some online dealer somewhere but I simply was too lazy so far. The even faster Lexar XQD the D5 was tested with - well I have heard about it the first time when the D5 came out. There will be faster CF cards in the future. I also prefer one card system but the D500 will force to introduce another card system besides CF and SD (yes D800E has a second SD slot and Df solely relies on SD). I wonder if XQD fits into my card tank designed for CF/SD, probably not.

[Mike G]

Anthony has put it far more eloquently than I  It would be more convenient to me if Nikon would bring back the mass storage facility, it would save faffing about with cards and readers! After all a digital camera is a form of disk drive aint it, yet another instance of manufacturer altering an operating system to suit itself and not necessarily its customers, the ten pin connector is another case in point!

If XQD cards are so much better? why doesn't Sony use them in its own cameras? It is an oddball design that seems to be doomed to be consigned to history, at least Nikon has made the card module fairly easily changeable, I wonder why?

[elsa hoffmann]

The XQD cards have been introduced with the D4 so it's not really that new.
And even then, Nikon offered two different slots, the other being for CF cards.

I am all in for standardization and it seems that CF cards are becoming the past and that XQD are the future.
I see a D5 as a no compromise camera, only the best features and best specs, hence XQD cards.

My initial point was, if you can afford a D5, you should be able to afford new memory cards.
If you want to drive a W12 engine car you should be able to afford the fuel costs.

If you don't need the speed of the D5, do you really need a D5 then?
I don't need a W12 engine car, but a V8 will do me just nicely

Never have there been so many good cameras out there from all brands.

We are on the same page. I am pretty sure the "new" cards are better  - and that the D5 shooter will benefit greatly. But seriously - it would have been nice if we could build up a supply of cards and keep using them in future cameras. Its not only that they are expensive to buy from scratch again - but  what does one do with all the old cards that also cost you a pretty penny.  Just a rant. Of course I would buy if needed

[bobfriedman]

do you get 200 buffered images in raw?.. or just jpg.

the D4s gives me around 60 raw images with XQD... which is plenty for me to tell you the truth.. even for wildlife action.