Nikon D5

[pluton]

Cine lenses need not only geard forcus and aperture rings but also the attachment compatibility in front of the lens.  The 14-24 would lose its wideangle advantage to accomodate the standard.

It's been done*:
http://www.abelcine.com/store/Focus-Optics-Ruby-14-24mm-T2.8-Zoom/

*Although, for 8-perf(24x36), some small drama with filter and attachment size occurs.

[pluton]

Would an EVF even be useful for this type of camera? As a camera built for speed I would guess any lag from an EVF could be a problem - for action you need to see things instantly. Also an EVF would also drain battery power much faster - although these cameras have big batteries so it would last a lot longer than most other mirrorless cameras.
EVF for the D810 or other high-res camera makes more sense where absolute precision in focusing is required.

It's not just added focus precision that an EVF could add.  It's also the ability to accurately focus...or autofocus... in very dim light.  Such a capability, available without resorting to the sometimes awkward, slow to operate, and low resolution rear LCD display, would make the D5 more versatile.   

[Akira]

Ha!  That's amazing!  Thanks for the link, Keith.

It is surprising that the lens keeps the speed even in the T-stop indication.  The coverage of 35mm "full" frame (VistaVision) may refer to Super35 size and not FX, I guess.

[pluton]

VistaVision, AKA '8-perf', AKA "fullframe" is very close to our familiar 24x36 still frame.  The film ran sideways through the camera.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistaVision
The famous Hitchcock movies "Vertigo" and "North By Northwest" were shot in VistaVision.  VV was also used for all the miniatures and optical effects work for the original 1977 "Star Wars"

[Akira]

Hmmm... the diagonal length of VV is about 26mm.  I wonder if the re-housed (and with the added front filter thread) 14-24 causes vignatting, especially a the wider end.

[bjornthun]

Hmmm... the diagonal length of VV is about 26mm.  I wonder if the re-housed (and with the added front filter thread) 14-24 causes vignatting, especially a the wider end.

They made a special filter ring with cut outs to avoid vignetting, in addition to a standard (in the cine world) 102mm fliter ring. You install the one needed for the task at hand.

That lens is special!

[ericbowles]

An optical viewfinder with an optional EVF attachment would be very interesting - especially if paired with the right software.  We all know there are certain subjects and conditions where EVF does not work - and the OVF would be fine.  But there are also capabilities of an EVF - such as increased accuracy with contrast detect AF, the ability to zoom and focus or check focus, the ability to see other information.  Think about products like CamRanger  - essentially using a smartphone or tablet as a viewfinder and control.  Or the ability to apply creative effects - like picture controls but expanded - in real time to stills and video.  And of course, for video an EVF would be a nice benefit.  Nikon has already delivered an EVF as an accessory item, so it would not be at all surprising to see it paired with a DSLR.

If you are using an EVF anyway, the mirror is already up and does not need to move.  Why not deliver a high frame rate - such as the 30fps or even 60fps bursts of the Nikon 1 system.  The D5 will have a large enough buffer to handle 30fps at reduced size - 6mp or so.  A 2 second burst at 30fps would be pretty remarkable for sports or wildlife.

[Frank Fremerey]

I want a D3Xs. Simple as that. Current tech in one of the best bodies Nikon ever brought to market.

[Fons Baerken]

picked this one up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnEsBK8YIe4


and some virtual rumours on a D850

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjjIvxYJ77A

[Ilkka Nissilä]

The increased performance of CDAF in mirrorless cameras vs. live view CDAF in DSLRs is due to  lenses  having stepper motors and being purpose made to perform well with CDAF, not due to the EVF which is just a display.

[Peter Connan]

Interesting that despite many people complaining about the lack of dual rear buttons (dedicated AF and AF/L AE/L) on the lower-range bodies, they have decided to have only a dedicated AF button on the D5. And that the metering mode button has become an ISO button.

[Ilkka Nissilä]

Interesting that despite many people complaining about the lack of dual rear buttons (dedicated AF and AF/L AE/L) on the lower-range bodies, they have decided to have only a dedicated AF button on the D5. And that the metering mode button has become an ISO button.

I cannot see how two thumb buttons could be useful since it's next to impossible to press both at the same time (if you want AF-ON and AE-L functions simultaneously), so configuring e.g. AF-ON on the thumb side and AE-L for the FUNC button would seem to be a more functional programming. AF-L and AF-ON buttons are inverse functions of each other and so I can't see how an AF-ON user would need AF-L (since you can achieve the same by simply lifting the finger off AF-ON). Likewise someone who activates AF using the shutter button may need AF-L to lock continuous focusing (AF-C) but then does not need AF-ON since it's a redundant function if the shutter button activates AF.  So for me one thumb button has always been fine and is in fact the optimal configuration. The other button just wastes space on the body for me and I never use it.

However, some people don't like the one thumb button configuration because that one button may be placed too close to the ocular. However, I would think if that is the case, they'd primarily complain about the button position instead of the number of distinct buttons.

The fact that D4s and D4 don't have two buttons suggests that Nikon doesn't understand why two buttons would be needed, either.

[Peter Connan]

For me, this is not a problem either, as I use back-button focus and never lock exposure, rather either going manual or using compensation.

But here is a contrary view in post #119 of this thread: http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/topic,127.105.html

I have seen a few others as well.

The removal of the metering mode button concerns me more, although it is very unlikely I will ever be able to afford a D5 anyway.

[pluton]

picked this one up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnEsBK8YIe4


and some virtual rumours on a D850

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjjIvxYJ77A

Interesting that the "D5" shown does not have the latches on the eyepiece that the earlier claimed "D5" had.
As for the "D850" video, I leave you with this sample of not-believable copy writing:

[MILLIREHM]

I cannot see how two thumb buttons could be useful since it's next to impossible to press both at the same time (if you want AF-ON and AE-L functions simultaneously), so configuring e.g. AF-ON on the thumb side and AE-L for the FUNC button would seem to be a more functional programming. AF-L and AF-ON buttons are inverse functions of each other and so I can't see how an AF-ON user would need AF-L (since you can achieve the same by simply lifting the finger off AF-ON). Likewise someone who activates AF using the shutter button may need AF-L to lock continuous focusing (AF-C) but then does not need AF-ON since it's a redundant function if the shutter button activates AF.  So for me one thumb button has always been fine and is in fact the optimal configuration. The other button just wastes space on the body for me and I never use it.

However, some people don't like the one thumb button configuration because that one button may be placed too close to the ocular. However, I would think if that is the case, they'd primarily complain about the button position instead of the number of distinct buttons.

The fact that D4s and D4 don't have two buttons suggests that Nikon doesn't understand why two buttons would be needed, either.

Well I have used the AF-L button on the D300/700/800 series for a different function (don't need and use AF-L) that is to handle switching between the nine options of Data for non-CPU lenses. The D4S lacking a second button caused me change the whole approach (as I want to have the same proedures on all Cameras if possible.)

BUT: Great advantage of having one button: one cannot accidentially get the wrong button while having camera on the eye - this occurred to me when fast action was ongoing and I was using AF-ON function