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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2022, 07:28:55 »
CP+ TV channel showing off the 800 f6.3S PF PF (still not launched). This chap who displays the 800 is clueless in several respects, no idea of the Z9 vertical grip, finger obscuring the front element.... Anyway, this PF telephoto breaks new ground in ergonomics - looking all the more intriguing.

https://youtu.be/DI5h4TblyUc?t=3347


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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2022, 10:56:16 »
The photographer seems to be geared for speed and panning, I use the same techniques when time is of the essence or when panning with big tele lenses.

And no the fingers don’t show up in the image when you grap the front of a big tele or hood like that but it improves handling the lens considerably for me personally. When waiting for the next pan action the stretched left arm holds all the weight without muscle tension so the arm does not get tired and when panning you have a much longer arm to manoeuvre the lens for a more controlled and smoother pan.
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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2022, 09:51:21 »
Screen grab from dpr thread fyi. One of the presenters comments this 800 f6.3 PF is shorter than the 500 f4E, and they guess at the weight as less than 3kg - between 2-3kg. As least from what I could decipher in the translated dialogue (using closed captions).

Comments on other forums highlight the trumpet chassis, which constricts sharply away from the anterior ~127mm window. Based on the little we know so far, Nikon seemed to have put significant thought into the weight reduction and ergonomics. It is looking impressive  ;D

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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2022, 11:52:16 »
Preorder is about 17k Eu  :o I think 500pf will stay forever on top of the quality/ price scale 8)

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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2022, 12:40:16 »
Was Morten using this in his Z9 videos?

Using an 800mm here …

https://youtu.be/uJhQk7M78PE
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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2022, 14:47:53 »
Was Morten using this in his Z9 videos?

Using an 800mm here …

https://youtu.be/uJhQk7M78PE
its the F mount f5.6

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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2022, 15:29:04 »
Preorder is about 17k Eu  :o I think 500pf will stay forever on top of the quality/ price scale 8)
Well this a groundbreaking and real 800mm lens instead of the recently announced Canon RF 800/5.6 which is their old DSLR 400/2.8 EF lens with fixed 2xTC builtin  :o ::)
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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2022, 15:56:10 »
Is this price authentic? So far there has no authentic indications, nor leaks. There was this but it's clickbait - https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/features/the-dollar16000-nikon-z-800mm-f63-has-just-appeared-but-why-isnt-it-an-f56

Preorder is about 17k Eu  :o I think 500pf will stay forever on top of the quality/ price scale 8)

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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2022, 18:23:09 »
Well I was asking myself about the possible pricing- but 16-17k? did not expect that (UPDATE - and it is in no way confirmed)
that would be in the range of the F-mount AF-S 800/5,6 and beyond the newly presentet 400/2,8 Z-mount with all sorts of new glass
and it confuse sme a bit, as I have considered PF lenses as compact lightweight designs with high image quality that comes close to faster and heavier sisters but with compromises regarding not so good bokeh ...
This 800 PF appears to have the size
So far Nikon and canon had 800/5,6 lenses alternately, now canon came for RG with 600 and 800/11 and will provide 800/5,6 and 1200/8 (mirrorless gives new optoins for not so fast lenses) and Nikon adds the 800/6,3 with the same price as the current 5,6
I think I am going to stick with F-mount teles for the near to midterm future

BTW The Nikon 800/5,6 is a very fine lens with probably the best teleconverter existing as companion. It also shares a lot of common desigh with 400/2,8 FL (same lens shade same front lens diameter and same form of the front part)
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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2022, 19:23:56 »
Preorder is about 17k Eu  :o I think 500pf will stay forever on top of the quality/ price scale 8)
Where did you find that price?
I can’t find a “real” price so far, just speculations between 6K and 13K.
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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2022, 22:42:35 »
As Chambeshi said this digitalcameraworld comment is headlining 16,000$
Hope thats not nearly true
I would find 6-10k the maximum they shoudl take- depending on the IQ it provides - we dont know nothing about that yet
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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2022, 09:53:43 »
As Chambeshi said this digitalcameraworld comment is headlining 16,000$
Hope thats not nearly true
I would find 6-10k the maximum they shoudl take- depending on the IQ it provides - we dont know nothing about that yet
So just still wild guesses / speculations.  :)
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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2022, 10:39:05 »
Preorder prices are sometimes wildly inaccurate (and high). It seems someone just made the assumption the Nikon lens will cost about the same as the Canon lens of the same focal length.

However, there is strong inflation now, after the pandemic and now major war in Europe. Thus a high price can be assumed probably without too much error.

I would have expected about 10k€ price for the Nikon 800/6.3. For one, it is 1/3 stop slower than the Canon and PF has some quality drawbacks.

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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2022, 10:59:27 »
Use of one or more FL elements will have a big influence on the price. Let's hope the PF element alone is sufficient to reduce the weight as well the length.

more photos here https://nikonrumors.com/2022/02/27/nikons-presentation-at-the-2022-cp-show-z9-cat-meow-custom-shutter-sound-and-hands-on-with-the-nikkor-z-800mm-f-6-3-vr-s-lens.aspx/
and this one suggests it's rather light


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Re: Nikkor 800mm f6.3S VR PF announced
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2022, 13:05:16 »
Where did you find that price?
I can’t find a “real” price so far, just speculations between 6K and 13K.
My Apologies  :-[
I checked  it twice,  It’s not   the preorder of the upcoming S model, it’s a regular order of the F mount version...
Let’s wait, personally I expect a high price