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Nikfuson

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Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« on: December 03, 2021, 19:23:48 »
I am hugely impressed with DXO's technology.
Tried my best to de-noise the same image with ACR but got nowhere close.
Our Golden modelling for this test.
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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2021, 19:36:44 »
thanks, this is seriously impressive - ISO 32'000?
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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2021, 19:43:15 »
Have you tried the Topaz denoiser? I hear good things about it.

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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2021, 20:03:26 »
Have you tried the Topaz denoiser? I hear good things about it.

I tried Topaz but no cigar there either.
After trying Deep Prime free for some time I was impressed enough to purchase Pure Raw (the raw converter with Deep Prime NR.

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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2021, 20:14:01 »
thanks, this is seriously impressive - ISO 32'000?

Yes, 32k.

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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2021, 20:38:23 »
Thanks for the hint on Pure RAW - interesting concept - I gave it a whizz bang whallop - this is very noisy D850 file - pity it doesn't support my X100V:
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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2021, 21:59:42 »
The detail conservation is impressive

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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2021, 22:06:12 »
Looks really impressive.  Thank you for sharing, Sten.

- pity it doesn't support my X100V:

Unfortunately, DXO traditionally ignores non-Bayer sensors completely.
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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2021, 22:14:34 »
Akira, their Photo Lab 5 Elite does XTRANS with the same deep prime algorithms (so far beta only).
I hope Pure RAW will get an update to support XTRANS. They can do it.

Golunvolo, have a look at the label on the cap: Adobe Camera RAW apart from lots of noise also no color, but the DXO version is quite nice
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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2021, 22:17:57 »
The infamous "UV striping" of the Z6 proved too deep for DXO Deep Prime :(

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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2021, 22:58:17 »
Akira, their Photo Lab 5 Elite does XTRANS with the same deep prime algorithms (so far beta only).
I hope Pure RAW will get an update to support XTRANS. They can do it.

Really?  They must have changed their mind!  When I was using Photpo Lab and  referred to DXO Marks website several years ago, there was no hint for them interested in X-Trans sensor.  Capture One handled my X-Trans sensor images marvelously.
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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2021, 10:55:40 »
I confirm. Having tested DxO Deep Prime and compared it to my Lr&Ps environment, the former performs better. Nevertheless, DxO is nowhere compared to Adobe in a professional work environment. So it’s a NoGo.

PS: I used to be a DxO subscriber.

NB: DxO takes also ages before providing updates for new bodies / lenses. The latter also as a result that each pair lens/body has to be tested by DxO.
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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2021, 14:18:09 »
I confirm. Having tested DxO Deep Prime and compared it to my Lr&Ps environment, the former performs better. Nevertheless, DxO is nowhere compared to Adobe in a professional work environment. So it’s a NoGo.

PS: I used to be a DxO subscriber.

NB: DxO takes also ages before providing updates for new bodies / lenses. The latter also as a result that each pair lens/body has to be tested by DxO.

I agree with the photo editing capabilities in general but for me Pure Raw is the ticket when it comes to NR.

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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2021, 16:19:11 »
Really?  They must have changed their mind!  When I was using Photpo Lab and  referred to DXO Marks website several years ago, there was no hint for them interested in X-Trans sensor.  Capture One handled my X-Trans sensor images marvelously.

They did change their mind!  DxO Photolab 5 (Elite Version) supports Fuji X-Trans sensors very nicely!

Apparently, the standard version does not.

https://www.dxo.com/supported-cameras/
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Re: Noise reduction - DXO vs. Adobe
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2021, 17:10:05 »
I agree with the photo editing capabilities in general but for me Pure Raw is the ticket when it comes to NR.

I keep NR correction to the lowest possible level; this together by using a D6 and never exceeding ISO 25’600. If there is still some noise, so be it.  ;)


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