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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #75 on: October 29, 2021, 03:36:28 »
Thanks Sten.  The mystery tab in your second image is tantalising.  As Birna says, we need to get an example in the hand and take a look.  I wonder if it can detect the difference between an AiS lens and an AI lens, and apply a different stop down sequence for the latter.  Time will tell as they say. 

Certainly I can see no linkage as per previous cameras. 

EDIT:  is the tab in the second photo not just the stop down mechanism needed for all non-E F-mount lenses?

According to the compatible lens overview (e.g. AF-Nikkor-24mm f2.8D) it should have the aperture coupling.
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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #76 on: October 29, 2021, 05:32:40 »
i wasnt expecting the all-electronic shutter :o :o :o

this is a very bold move from Nikon.   ::)

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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #77 on: October 29, 2021, 08:39:57 »
The FTZII has a little something on the right hand side...
Yes, looks like it has the aperture actuator just like the FTZ first iteration
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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #78 on: October 29, 2021, 08:52:42 »
It certainly looks to me as if that is what it is.

Yes, looks like it has the aperture actuator just like the FTZ first iteration
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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #79 on: October 29, 2021, 09:11:34 »
Comparing my FTZ with Sten's pictures, I see no difference at all.

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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #80 on: October 29, 2021, 10:07:47 »
I guess the clue of non-screwdrive support is in this text from Nikon:
"AE shooting is possible with approx. 360 types of lenses including AI NIKKOR and those released afterwards. Among them, a total of 94 types or more of AF-P, AF-S and AF-I lenses incorporating motors support AE/AF shooting. Depending on the position and movement of the subject, which affects lens drive, there are various difficulties when focusing. Aperture control may take time and continuous shooting speed may be slower with some lenses."

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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #81 on: October 29, 2021, 11:51:28 »
i wasnt expecting the all-electronic shutter :o :o :o

this is a very bold move from Nikon.   ::)

Yes, they were brave enough to decide to follow SIGMA.   :P
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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #82 on: October 29, 2021, 12:32:23 »
With an electronic shutter going 1/32000th of a second its a no brainer to remove a mechanical shutter which is usually limited at 1/8000th/s allowing for a much simpeler camera design with a much longer lifespan.

In comparison, the electronic shutter of the Z6 is limited to 1/2000th which is a real limitation when shooting with fast lenses in bright conditions, the Z9 really is a gamechanger here.
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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #83 on: October 29, 2021, 13:22:22 »
The Z9 caters extremely well for machine-gunning shooters. With a conventional shutter they would burn out the shutter in no time. Now we at least have the hopes for a decent longevity of the camera.


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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #84 on: October 29, 2021, 13:23:16 »
https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=8075.msg138214#msg138214

I guess that this banding is gone with the very fast read-out

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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #85 on: October 29, 2021, 13:24:06 »
The Z9 caters extremely well for machine-gunning shooters. With a conventional shutter they would burn out the shutter in no time. Now we at least have the hopes for a decent longevity of the camera.

What about the increased storage needs and burning out the person who has to select and edit the images afterwards? :-)

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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #86 on: October 29, 2021, 13:33:08 »
A good point however irrelevant to me, as I'm not of the said inclination. In fact, I shoot fewer frames per session today than I did in the film days :)

This reminds us to think and consider the difference between 'quantities' and 'qualities', though.

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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #87 on: October 29, 2021, 14:17:36 »
With an electronic shutter going 1/32000th of a second its a no brainer to remove a mechanical shutter which is usually limited at 1/8000th/s allowing for a much simpeler camera design with a much longer lifespan.

In comparison, the electronic shutter of the Z6 is limited to 1/2000th which is a real limitation when shooting with fast lenses in bright conditions, the Z9 really is a gamechanger here.


  Pretty sure the z6 electronic shutter goes all the way to the maximum 1/8000th. It is the electronic front-curtain shutter that tops at 1/2000th speed.

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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #88 on: October 29, 2021, 16:41:10 »
https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=8075.msg138214#msg138214

I guess that this banding is gone with the very fast read-out

I saw a response from Nikon Europe and also an interview with one of their early access users which mentioned no LED banding.
Now, I'm sure there is a way to drive LEDs at a frequency which would cause banding, but those sorts of conditions are not what is typically found with general lighting devices.

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Re: Z9 Release Thread
« Reply #89 on: October 29, 2021, 18:19:17 »
Pretty sure the z6 electronic shutter goes all the way to the maximum 1/8000th. It is the electronic front-curtain shutter that tops at 1/2000th speed.
You are correct Paco, thanks for correcting me :)

Apparently also missed that there’s now an auto shutter mode with the firmware 2.0 update, did some testing with the 40/2 mounted and the shutter switches automatically to EFC at 1/250th and below and to a mechanical shutter at 1/320th and above providing a worry free best of both worlds setup.
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