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Images => Themes, Portfolio Series, PaW, or PaM => Your Weekly Blog => Topic started by: Bjørn Rørslett on January 01, 2017, 10:43:57
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Post your "blog" contributions here.
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January first 2017
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the day after neighbours party
D800 70-200/2.8
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All the best for 2017, Fons.
What a violent neighbours ;)
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Happy New Year, Fons! Is it for BBQ or fireworks? ;D Either case, this is a fun image!
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Just to ensure the process gets moving...
First sun rays of the new year, 2017.
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I will chip in too :)
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Fresh ice on the new years' first day.
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Lower quality because of having been taken on a phone and through perspex, but these were a first for me
The low sun and dense cloud make for an alternative view of the London skyline
(http://www.pbase.com/celidh/image/164775750/original.jpg)
A slightly more traditional view
(http://www.pbase.com/celidh/image/164775751/original.jpg)
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Colin, the first image fantastically proves that "the best camera is what you have with you". :) Well captured!
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Thanks Akira
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4 pics per month is different from one pic per week. I can post my 4 favourites at the end of the period or I can post a series of four right in the middle.
Happy 2017. First snow. Going out to shoot.
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January second 2017
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/628/31671877070_06a3e8de6d_o.jpg)
infrared with D5300 af-s17-35mm f/2.8
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4 pics per month is different from one pic per week. I can post my 4 favourites at the end of the period or I can post a series of four right in the middle.
Happy 2017. First snow. Going out to shoot.
As an NG Supporter, you are entitled to max. 30 images per month. The max. of 4 is for ordinary members.
We have given contributors the freedom of choosing the interval between their posted pictures. This is to de-emphasize the pressure to post *something* just to fill a quota. The schedule of once a week is doable for most NG members I'd guess, but is not required.
If there is a story behind the picture, by all means contribute that as well.
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January 2nd
The first sun rays this year on our tiny spot of the planet. This is in the Triangle park in the middle of the town, Wilhelminapark, designed by Leonard Springer in 1890. The frost has just gone, and the first drops of water appear....
Df Nikkor P-Auto 105/2.5
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Colin, the first image fantastically proves that "the best camera is what you have with you". :) Well captured!
Great shot, indeed. !!
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January 1/30
.Sage.
02 01 02017
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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/628/31671877070_06a3e8de6d_o.jpg)
I am deeply impressed, Fons! A picture taken with soul, going right into mine.
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#13: John, I can breathe this shot.
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Fresh ice on the new years' first day.
Very interssting color spots, I guess these are stones under the ice?
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Thank you, Frank and earlier, John and Akira.
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#13: John, I can breathe this shot.
Thanks Frank. First sun of 2017 ;)
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January third
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This mornings' sun-up over the Bosche broek
D3 -- 58mm f/1.4g
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That is more like a painting than a photo, Fons
Today sunny. I take the D600 with the 105E for a walk!
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January 2/30
.street front garden.
03 01 02017
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3rd January, in the world of commerce Christmas is now over for the next 9 and a half months !
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/757/31238229094_d14dde1607_b.jpg)
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January third
Great sunrise Fons. At first I thought it was the 17-35...
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Very typical new-years -action, Jacques. Nicely captured.
Morning dawn, before the forecasted rain will come...
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That is an unusual rendering, John.
Some bubbles in the middle, some cat eyes nearer to the frame border thatblook more loke 105E cat eyes. Some unsharp needles embedded into sharp ones, near monochrome.
A rainy feel... confusing.
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Thanks Frank. Yes it is an unusual rendering perhaps.
Shot with the Df with the 105mm /2.5 from 1969. Actually I was only interested in the AI-ring, and got it cheap as it has some minor micro scratches.
But I like the sharpness wide open, and the rendering so it will stay on the Df for a while ;)
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Thanks Frank. Yes it is an unusual rendering perhaps.
Shot with the Df with the 105mm /2.5 from 1969. Actually I was only interested in the AI-ring, and got it cheap as it has some minor micro scratches.
But I like the sharpness wide open, and the rendering so it will stay on the Df for a while ;)
I thought long and hard about having unsharp elements in front of any shot and I feel it does not work most of the time. Yet, depending on the subject, it is sometimes difficult in the final result to determine which elements are in front which are in the back. I generally love no blur up front and if there is blur up front I love it as smooth as it can get, like in Ron Scubadiver's super shot of the pink bride on the zebra crossing in Vietnam...
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January 3/30
.Altstadtmetzgerei Haupt.
04 01 02017
This might be not the best Butcher in the world product wise, but they took great effort to make the outer appearance look really friendly and to train their personnel to be friendly and helpful to the customers and succeeded in both! On the business side a mediocre butcher with well trained personnel earns more than a top notch producer with unfriendly personnel. 80% of the purchases are customer relation dependent. I know that because I worked for a few dozen butchers as a photographer.
Photographically, the interior is blown in orange, so if that was a customer file I would do two RAW developments, one WB for the exterior, one WB for the interior, then mask the interior out. I also would see to having the car removed before shooting.
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I thought long and hard about having unsharp elements in front of any shot and I feel it does not work most of the time.
In general it is distracting, plus most lenses make an ugly forefront.
Yet, depending on the subject, it is sometimes difficult in the final result to determine which elements are in front which are in the back.
It all depends on the wanted outcome and usually with some trial and error.
A colourful Butcher, Frank. Rather typical for Germany.
I would sell it, Fons ;)
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It always makes me angry when old trees must be chopped with no apparent reason. Today more than 40 Lindes (ninety year old) were killed.
'Silent Witness'
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It always makes me angry when old trees must be chopped with no apparent reason. Today more than 40 Lindes (ninety year old) were killed.
'Silent Witness'
Can you find out why the trees were killed?
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It always makes me angry when old trees must be chopped with no apparent reason. Today more than 40 Lindes (ninety year old) were killed.
'Silent Witness'
I hate that too; there will be some type of rational behind the actions, but still nowadays it seem so easy to cut trees, so different from yesteryears.
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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/641/31725309060_867684b997_o.jpg)
d500 pc-nikkor 35mm f/2.8
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I hate that too; there will be some type of rational behind the actions, but still nowadays it seem so easy to cut trees, so different from yesteryears.
Probably it's cost-management.... Not seeing trees as living nature, but as a cost.
Can you find out why the trees were killed?
I am investigating this case.
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Sad for the threes. But the term "killing" should rather be reserved for much more dramatic events. Probably another consequence of living 70 years in peace, where most of us have never been confronted with real violence..
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January 4/30
.pigeon.
05 01 02017
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5 januari
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/612/32081281786_154dce3477_o.jpg)
sterrenwacht Halley
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#39 you are onto something, Fons. Two is a series. What about 20 of these? Very cool!
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Maybe my copy of the 17-35mm f/2.8, but i think it hotspots on 720nm.
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Most of the faster zoom lenses (including the 17-35) do.
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I like Fons' #16 a lot. #39 may now indicate a 'Green Period'?
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Thank you Keith.
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#39 you are onto something, Fons. Two is a series. What about 20 of these? Very cool!
Frank i have some ir pics on my https://www.flickr.com/photos/fonsbaerken/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fonsbaerken/)
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In general it is distracting, plus most lenses make an ugly forefront.
It all depends on the wanted outcome and usually with some trial and error.
Having this knowledge still unsharp forefront happen to me as well. Some captures just feel right this way through the viewfinder. Not necessarily for the later spectator though.
#35, #38, #39 are nice. Each in it's different way.
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One of the oldest Squares (or Triangles) is Korvel, where buildings from the Roman period and gravehills around 1.700 BC were found.
It was late in the afternoon and the sun is bound to set in the West
Nikon 800E - 20/4
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One of the oldest Squares (or Triangles) is Korvel, where buildings from the Roman period and gravehills around 1.700 BC were found.
It was late in the afternoon and the sun is bound to set in the West
Nikon 800E - 20/4
John, that's a Lovely afternoon take of a nice sunny winter day. I like the perspective of a 20mm.
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Thanks Thomas. Yes, I like the 20mm as well. Last year I had at a time all 20mm Nikkor versions, and sold them. I got a 'new' 20/4 and a 20 UD and I will settle with these ;)
The 20/4 is compact and great for landscape and the wider street shots, where the UD is better with architecture and has an unusual smooth rendering for a 20mm.
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January 5/30
.glitter gods on orthodox chistmas.
06 01 02017
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January 6. 5-stitch pano.
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6 januari
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/260/32099382586_33e441b80a_o.jpg)
local scenery
IRD5300 17-35/2.8
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Ice-day (below zero)
Frozen Chrysler. (RE-EDITED)
D800E 20/4
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On a very cold January 6.
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In normally mild to hot Houston it is 2C and raining lightly. Below 0C with the chill factor. I don't feel like going outside. There was no electricity in my house from 6PM on New Year's Eve until power was restored just before dark on Tuesday after paying an electrician $1,200 to replace part of the service the utility said was my responsibility. Delay was due to the holiday weekend, the utility requiring a building permit be filed and city offices being closed. Luckily the weather was mild during the outage.
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Ice-day (below zero)
Frozen Chrysler. (EDITED)
I think I saw it with grille and liked that version better?!
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January 6. 5-stitch pano.
That is really beautiful and the sky is very much like our sky today. clear blue.
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6 januari
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/260/32099382586_33e441b80a_o.jpg)
local scenery
IRD5300 17-35/2.8
You managed to let this appear scarier than it must have seemed to the bare eye!
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That is really beautiful and the sky is very much like our sky today. clear blue.
Thanks, Frank! It was indeed a clear and pleasant day here in Tokyo. And the place was open with no interruptions of the electric wires.
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I think I saw it with grille and liked that version better?!
Doubting, as I used different lenses for different effects. I did a Re-Edit, this is the version now with the 20/4 ;)
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On a very cold January 6.
This is nice. Looks cold. But there is fine food for the bird.
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January 6. 5-stitch pano.
Nice combination with the clouds.
On a very cold January 6.
Cool shot. I assume they are quick flyers?
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Snow followed by Ice-rain Slippery so keep two feet on the road...
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Cool shot. I assume they are quick flyers?
This is nice. Looks cold. But there is fine food for the bird.
They move quickly if you make any noise, but on an apple they stay for some time, if not disturbed.
What you can't see is that there is a bird feeder hanging in the tree. We feed during the wintertime, not so much for being able to photograph the birds, but for having them in the spring and summer ;)
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Snow followed by Ice-rain Slippery so keep two feet on the road...
We just had a serving of light drizzle on deep frozen pavement. Blitzeis .... Flash-Ice we call that ... the place turns into a skating ground in seconds. In some spots wise people had applied sand and salt. In most places nothing. I went shopping with bicycle and trailer and was floored totally once and nearly several times. Kind of dangeous.
In the picture I love the flow from sharp to unsharp parts, creates a great 3D sense of the scene...
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January 6/30
.windows protection collage.
07 01 02017
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We just had a serving of light drizzle on deep frozen pavement. Blitzeis .... Flash-Ice we call that ... the place turns into a skating ground in seconds. In some spots wise people had applied sand and salt. In most places nothing. I went shopping with bicycle and trailer and was floored totally once and nearly several times. Kind of dangeous.
In the picture I love the flow from sharp to unsharp parts, creates a great 3D sense of the scene...
Thanks Frank.
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January 7/30
.Groß andel 32.
08 01 02017
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Snow followed by Ice-rain Slippery so keep two feet on the road...
We shared these road conditions here as well. No fun - no photos.
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Yes Thomas, it was slippery but with a backpack and two camera's as counter weight, good doable ;)
New years receptions..
800E - 200/3.5
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(https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/431/32028187721_0c48540eb0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QNdQn8)
Captured with the 180mm f2.8 ED Ai-S. If i would have known that it is really this good i would have bought it earlier.... ;)
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Interesting light on the car parking building, Harald!
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January 8/30
.Bahn Unterführung.
09 01 02017
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Interesting light, and for sure a great lens, Harald.
That's a beauty Frank, nice reflections and bokeh of the car.
Earlier this month, when we had sun.... Construction work started in 2017
D800E 200/3.5
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Thank you, John. And sun I could use some. How great the brightness of southern Calofornia was. Wow.
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January 9/30
.Collage of trees & roots & cars.
10 01 02017
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The downward orientation of the car is somewhat distracting, Frank.
Already three days cloudy and rainy.
Around 1900 Tilburg grew from a few thousand to more than 40.000 inhabitants mainly due to the textile-industry. The farm/house below is typical for that period when many houses were built.
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January 10/30
.Collage of trees & roots & cars.
11 01 02017
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Do keep to the new posting rules, Frank.
Next time you bend the rules, pictures will be directly deleted by admin. Now you can delete the ones you want yourself (today only).
On a general note, although NG Supporters *may* post up to 30 images per month, it is generally not recommended to do so.
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January 11/30
.grafittio.
12 01 02017
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Good morning winter light in my roof. Welcome to Seville!
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It's a slow season in the City Garden. Some activities in the green houses, and of course the pigs, chickens and the Highlander cows.
Yesterday there was a visit from the national Broadcast company who works on a documentary about social projects with volunteers. Second to the right, the former Brabant Parliamentarian Veerle Slegers. The Greenhouse was chosen as the setting for some interviews.
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January 11/30
.grafittio.
12 01 02017
Great! Like that the chutes's curved handrail is reapeated in the rounded windows in the back.
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Good morning winter light in my roof. Welcome to Seville!
Wonderful sky shot. That blue. These antennas. (I think they might get useless when all FM radio and terestical TV will go digital, so it's a documentary as well)
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It's a slow season in the City Garden. Some activities in the green houses, and of course the pigs, chickens and the Highlander cows.
Yesterday there was a visit from the national Broadcast company who works on a documentary about social projects with volunteers. Second to the right, the former Brabant Parliamentarian Veerle Slegers. The Greenhouse was chosen as the setting for some interviews.
They must have liked the weather protection. The insight looks sub-optimal in a scenery sense.
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Thanks Thomas. Weather conditions were changing rapidly, from sunshine to storm. The interview had to be stopped a few times because of the heavy wind.
That's a beautiful Mediterranean blue, Paco !
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January 12/30
.little wing.
13 01 02017
I dreamt that the 1.8/75 Zuiko will help me shoot little birds in brushes. Today it did, so I deviate for a moment from my "showing our quarter in Bronx-style" as my wife calls it. The AF system is not good with this camera. Most of the shots were slightly oof, although I had the focus field on the head of the bird. I love these little creatures!
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Great! Like that the chutes's curved handrail is reapeated in the rounded windows in the back.
You should see this in the original AdobeRGB / Velvia style ooc JPEG. Color is yaw dropping like the 64ASA Agfa from out youth!
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Good morning winter light in my roof. Welcome to Seville!
What temperature is this?
I wish it was 18° to 22° Celcius and the Oranges in the garden were rady to eat. I have been to the Alicante Area one January in the 1980ies ... great time ... not many tourists, all calm and not too hot, still the wonderful food and smells and landscape!
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Thank you all, I'm happy you like it
Frank, it is now between 7 and 14 C° . Cold for us but still very enjoyable to eat in the sun :)
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Just a shot with the newly arrived 105 2.5 P-Auto. :)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/603/32139228942_a38e593ea5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QY2X3W)
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Diptych
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Another super lens, Harald !
Great details, Jacques.
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January 13/30
.Americans in Bonn.
14 01 02017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sep_Ruf
Sep Ruf created a settlement for the High Commissioner of Germany in Bonn. The HiCoG-settlement is still there while the Americans are long gone. I remember friendship from my youth visiting Americans in this settlement before they returned to America. Pars pro toto, two buildings taken with the D600 & 105E from "the high rise" the first building with more thast 5 storeys in Bonn:
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An interesting story, Frank.
We had a lot of snow, and melting again.
There are still some signs of Christmas decoration
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It was cold today (yeah, for Tokyo, I mean) but pleasant. D750 with AF-S 50/1.8G (the lens turned out to be noticeably sharper without the protection filter), some cropping.
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John: These PO Boxes look red on my monitor. Last time I took shots of these they seemed top be "oranje". Otherwise I like the idea of fish eye in this case.
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Akira: This cloud seems to stem from another world, a peaceful 3-dimensional-world full of light like in the cartoon film "UP" a few years back. The cvitxy in contrast appears like a city of shadows in contrast.
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January 14/30
.water.
15 01 02017
Interesting for members of a very authoritarian institution, some of our priests use the old anti-authoritarian baptising words: "I anoint you to be priest, king and prophet. Do not bow before any worldly power but only in front of your Lord, Jesus Christ" So Jesus, who was a PITA of the Jewish Establishment in his time, lets the foundations of Kingdoms, Empires and Institutions like the Roman Catholic Church shiver and crumble, because everybody is, in that perspective, entiteled to direkt access to a higher force, the highest.
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Thanks, Frank. Yes, the cloud was so inspiring. Your capture of the baptismal scene conveys your familiarity with your religion.
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It was cold today (yeah, for Tokyo, I mean) but pleasant. D750 with AF-S 50/1.8G (the lens turned out to be noticeably sharper without the protection filter), some cropping.
I am sorry you have such an overcast day ;) We haven't had that few clouds since october and I am getting rather tired of the ever changing weather ::)
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A rare snowstorm in Virginia Beach was a delight for many...
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Snowstorm-January-2017/i-XWZWGjt/0/X3/D5C_1674-X3.jpg) (https://billm7.smugmug.com/Snowstorm-January-2017/i-XWZWGjt/A)
Admin: max. 1 mage per day. No exceptions.
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Your capture of the baptismal scene conveys your familiarity with your religion.
Thank you. Also important is that all the people there know me, trust me and I have all area access all the time. They feel they like to support my effort to create pictures for them.
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A glorious sunny day for my first foray out this year, on the 2nd.
Frost and just a sprinkle of snow, almost a late autumnal feel.
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Simone, please follow instructions : max. 1 image per day.
Better you select which one to keep than admins deleting at random.
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Simone, please follow instructions : max. 1 image per day.
Better you select which one to keep than admins deleting at random.
My apologies, I was under the impression that NG supporters were allowed more than one per day.
Please confirm one way or the other?
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No, you NG Supporters are allowed up to 30 per month, max. 1 per day. Non-supporters have only a quota of 4.
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No, you NG Supporters are allowed up to 30 per month, max. 1 per day. Non-supporters have only a quota of 4.
OK, I misread.
I'll amend my post.
Although looking back I am not the only one who misunderstood the rules. Anyway, not a big deal.
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Bill Mellem: you also need to cut down on the multiple images in your post. Same reason as for Simone.
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A rare snowstorm in Virginia Beach was a delight for many...
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Snowstorm-January-2017/i-XWZWGjt/0/X3/D5C_1674-X3.jpg) (https://billm7.smugmug.com/Snowstorm-January-2017/i-XWZWGjt/A)
I love it that we see them all from behind, it creates a feeling of being part of the group, walking with them
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A glorious sunny day for my first foray out this year, on the 2nd.
Frost and just a sprinkle of snow, almost a late autumnal feel.
Are you in England or Italy currently? From the tree form it could be both, the mountain form speaks more for England
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I love it that we see them all from behind, it creates a feeling of being part of the group, walking with them
Thank you Frank
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Are you in England or Italy currently? From the tree form it could be both, the mountain form speaks more for England
The photo is from the Lake District in northern England.
I'll be paying a short visit to Italy soon but I don't expect to be doing much photography.
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Hall A, B and C...
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Are you in England or Italy currently? From the tree form it could be both, the mountain form speaks more for England
Another one from same region, same day.
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January 15/30
.city hall winter sun.
17 01 02017
Bonn city hall is an IMO ugly building from the 1970ies. It had some decorative elements that have been torn down due to instability. The operating costs are over the top by any standards and some people think the savings of a new building alone would justify to tear the old building down and put a new construction in place. But I believe this is pure fiction. As far as I know public building projects in Germany and especially in Bonn tend to cost next to nothing when the parliament originally starts them and in the end exceed the original costs by a factor between 3 and 20. Last big one in my home town was the United Nations Convention Center. In the beginning the cost was estimated as ZERO, currently we have a bill of more than 300 Million Euros to fit.
(German Wikipedia Entry: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Conference_Center_Bonn )
So this morning before 9 am the sun spread his still warm orange rising winter light over the building which made for a nice study in geometric possibilities.
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January 17. Blue hour. Shot with iPhone SE, some edit in CC2017 but not trimmed.
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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/269/32249712691_de49ee85b4_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R8Nd2a)
Nikon 105 2.5. P-Auto.
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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/269/32249712691_de49ee85b4_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R8Nd2a)
Nikon 105 2.5. P-Auto.
Very nice, I like it :)
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I wonder what the Lake District could look like if thousands of sheep were not allowed everywhere eating everything.
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Akira: wonderful scene!
Harald: superb composition!
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Had a small outing today the cold weather, had to make a pano.
It was nearly "killing" my iMac in the making, the end result was an 814MB file!
Maybe the D800 files was a bit over the the top for a 360 degrees pano from the "mountain" just outside Copenhagen.
The hill is completely artificial, and made from excavations done in the greater Copenhagen area.
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Freezing cold today, but we had sun. (after days of boring clouds)
Cityhall Tilburg, still the decision has to be made for renovation. If City Council wait too long, the building will be nominated as Dutch Architecture which is only possible when the building is older than 50 years. The Cityhall was built in 1967-1968.
The black marble stone is polished and reflects the light.
Fuji S5 Angenieux 35-70
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Ah, you have a cityhall too, Frank. Nice ;)
Special Light, Akira. Too bad you didn't have the D750 with you ;)
Great shot, Harald.
Beautiful Simone, looks very cold.
Impressive Pano, Bent. It's strange, whenever I am in the mood for pano's I am carrying the D800E, which is stupid actually. The Df would have been better, file-size-wise. ;)
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Impressive Pano, Bent. It's strange, whenever I am in the mood for pano's I am carrying the D800E, which is stupid actually. The Df would have been better, file-size-wise. ;)
Just realised this, maybe my old trusty D700 should have been is use ;)
I am new to the D800, and try to what it can. I am otherwise satisfied with the results from the camera.
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Akira: wonderful scene!
Thanks, Frank! The atmosphere was great.
Special Light, Akira. Too bad you didn't have the D750 with you ;)
Thanks, John! Yeah, I regret I was a bit too lazy. It was shot over the fence with the camera held high above my head. So, the lightweight and the large screen of SE helped a lot. :)
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January 16/30
.cold light of morning.
18 01 02017
Two annotations:
The lemon shaped circles of confucion the 105E Nikkor produces can be clearly seen here
I had to think of a song by Placebo, thus the title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jti8v47e7m4
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January 17/30
.freezing plant.
19 01 02017
My wife was even talking about "rare double digit negative temperatures", but this is not the case for Bonn, which is always a bit warmer than the neighbouring settlements due to weather protection by the Rhine Valley terraform and moderation by the River and 320.000 people living in this protected and moderated bowl. Yet, -8°C and -9°C we see here as soon as the nights get clear and open as they curently are. This bush clearly shows how it feels about the frost.
Technical D500 & 1.8/50G @f/5.6 sharpening might be a bit overdone in RAW conversion. What do you think?
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Had a small outing today the cold weather, had to make a pano.
It was nearly "killing" my iMac in the making, the end result was an 814MB file!
Maybe the D800 files was a bit over the the top for a 360 degrees pano from the "mountain" just outside Copenhagen.
The hill is completely artificial, and made from excavations done in the greater Copenhagen area.
There is not plant cover to be seen, yet the landscape seems quite interesting. What kind of use did the people have in mind who changed the shape of this area?
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Cityhall Tilburg, still the decision has to be made for renovation. If City Council wait too long, the building will be nominated as Dutch Architecture which is only possible when the building is older than 50 years. The Cityhall was built in 1967-1968. The black marble stone is polished and reflects the light.
Does not look sooo bad in your picture. Which argumrents speak against keeping the hall? Which speak for renovating, wehich for tearing it down?
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A rear view of the Lens House, a test shot with the Sunex 5.6 mm f/5.6 Fisheye lens (on a V1). For testing purposes the lens has been put on a focusing adapter for the CX format cameras. The lens projects a circular image on a DX format camera. It is a fix-focus lens by design, but there are ways to circumvent this if the application requires a different focus (sic). As evidenced by this picture our current 'winter' is a bad joke.
Don't know much about the brand except for the lens being labelled 'made in China', but images seem to be quite sharp.
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A rear view of the Lens House, a test shot with the Sunex 5.6 mm f/5.6 Fisheye lens (on a V1). For testing purposes the lens has been put on a focusing adapter for the CX format cameras. The lens projects a circular image on a DX format camera. It is a fix-focus lens by design, but there are ways to circumvent this if the application requires a different focus (sic). As evidenced by this picture our current 'winter' is a bad joke. Don't know much about the brand except for the lens being labelled 'made in China', but images seem to be quite sharp.
What is a "lens house"???
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A house in which lenses are stored :D
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Looks sharp, must be cheaper than the Nikkor 13/5.6 I guess ;)
Frank: The building is outdated with regard to the climate-rules, so a renovation had to be planned. However, the first renovation plan was to tear down the original black marble plates. A lot of protest followed as it was against the original architectural design. A new plan is now in progress.
We have a colder winter than usual
A few days ago we had snow, some snow still remains, we count the Ice-days here.
The rendering of the 105/2.5 P-Auto (1969 version) is very very nice. Pretty sharp in the middle, ideal for portraits. Versatile usable at f/2.5. Sometimes the light forces to stop down, perhaps I should use a Grad filter to prevent that. The lens has become one of my favourites... Here on the Df.
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Hi John,
nice photo and i know what you mean... ;)
Caturday!
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/720/31595323623_7cf1da7417_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q8YhX2)
:)
Harald
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January 18/30
.St. Joseph Beuel.
19 01 02017
Beuel, my city of birth, later became part of Bonn. This church is standing right next to the Hospital of the same name that witnesses my being extracted from my mothers innards 50 years ago.
technical: For those of you with fast lenses, try the pano style I created many years ago. Instead of panoeing at f/11 or f/8, do it fully open like I do it quite often. Pano of four shots 105E on the D600 1/160 s and f/1.4
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I love either "man creating cloud" by John and "beat watching camera man" by Harald!
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Thanks Frank & Harald.
Frozen days here. A kind of 'tourist' - view; from the train between Utrecht and 's Hertogenbosch, the city Culemborg with the Ferry on the river Lek.
Panasonic GF1 = 20/1.7
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John: Nice open scenery, a tad on the dull side but this is due to the weather I guess
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January 19/30
.a forest of signs.
21 01 02017
Import/Export, One-Euro-Shops, Call-Shops and some other businesses seem to have a stark affinity towards retina hurting tones. I took the chance of this very bright & very cold morning to capture a corner with a freshly opened Autosign-Shop.
Technical: D600 & 1.4/105E
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John: Nice open scenery, a tad on the dull side but this is due to the weather I guess
Yes, and 'touristic' I said ;) But not too bad for a m4/3 sensor on a train with 130km/h speed and very dirty windows.
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Harald, the cat is wonderful. I suppose you couldn't get any closer :)
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January 20/30
.stark winter sun & black photographers.
22 01 02017
Cold is OK for me as long as I get some light. The days before the current period where very exhausting because it stayed dark all day. Look at that sun, look at these colors! Enjoy!
technical Fuji X100T 23mm f/5.6
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Frank, nice capture of the bounced light!
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Great light and colours Frank !
Museum de Pont - the Large Exhibition Room.
Fuji S5 17-35/2.8
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You even managed to have a visitor attired in the matching colours ... good on you !!
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I wonder what the Lake District could look like if thousands of sheep were not allowed everywhere eating everything.
That's somehow my kind of landscape. Like.
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#135, #143, #145 - these 3 are really nice. Appreciate your steady posting.
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Great light and colours Frank !
Frank, nice capture of the bounced light!
Thank you both!
Love the whithe cube with the R Y B color spots. Live jumps into the frame
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I wonder what the Lake District could look like if thousands of sheep were not allowed everywhere eating everything.
Managed grazing and carefully planting the hilltops could regenerate the eco system. Very true. But people do not really see that you pictures a near desert erosion pattern here: http://regenerationinternational.org/2016/03/07/meet-john-d-liu-the-indiana-jones-of-landscape-restoration/
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Thanks Bjørn, Frank and Thomas.
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22 Jan, today; a family walk in the woods in the local nature reserve near my home town of Pisa.
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Misty morning
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/467/32315284352_f04057e8b9_h.jpg)
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January 21/30
.triangle construction.
23 01 02017
This bridge is being dismanteled, rebuilt and extended offering interesting perspectives on the way. I have a thread here that shows my documentation work on the project. But: my schedule is so tight currently that I collect the files and rarely manage to process, describe and post them. So for today an overview of the current state must suffice.
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I remember that bridge, Frank ;)
Beautiful atmospheric overview, Jacques.
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Misty morning
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/467/32315284352_f04057e8b9_h.jpg)
When I see this I want to put on my wandering boots and warm rain proof clothing to walk there, breathe the fresh wet air and listen to the birds and other animals in the underwood
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This morning, on the beach.
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Nice details and DOF, Simone.
It's cloudy now, but the past week has been pretty sunny, although very cold.
Some grass in the afternoon sun
Fuji S5 17-35/2.8 (a very nice combination)
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January 21/30
.triangle construction.
23 01 02017
This bridge is being dismanteled, rebuilt and extended offering interesting perspectives on the way. I have a thread here that shows my documentation work on the project. But: my schedule is so tight currently that I collect the files and rarely manage to process, describe and post them. So for today an overview of the current state must suffice.
I have some difficulties to understand why this picture landed here on NG: may be there is some documentary interest, but from a photographic quality perspective - and I believe, that's why we are here on NG - it's a weak picture, as well as from a composition point of view (why is the biker cut in half ?), as from a technical point of view (color, sharpness etc).
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Simone - I can hear the waves and smell the sea!
John - what a fantastic way to capture the sparse winter sunlight!
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I have some difficulties to understand why this picture landed here on NG: may be there is some documentary interest, but from a photographic quality perspective - and I believe, that's why we are here on NG - it's a weak picture, as well as from a composition point of view (why is the biker cut in half ?), as from a technical point of view (color, sharpness etc).
MFloyd ,
I feel your post also concerns me as I was previously contributing to the "366 days.." threads that ran for almost a year but decided to quit and not post on this new 2017 thread after the critique being expressed. I count myself among happy amateurs that shoot pictures for fun and for that reason I will certainly be posting some poor shots regularly - this is simply because I'm not familiar with all the rules: good composition, what makes poor/good photography etc. and I'm not sure I want to follow a dogmatic approach in my photography. On NG there are also threads that contain snapshots from events etc. It can become increasingly difficult to decide "to post or not to post" a picture (or comments for that matter) unless there are some kind of rules or guidance.
I'd like to understand what you are suggesting - some kind of "quality check" or censorship? Maybe even for new members to be allowed to join?
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I have some difficulties to understand why this picture landed here on NG: may be there is some documentary interest, but from a photographic quality perspective - and I believe, that's why we are here on NG - it's a weak picture, as well as from a composition point of view (why is the biker cut in half ?), as from a technical point of view (color, sharpness etc).
Once that picture is trimmed on the top, it actually is quite Ok to my eye. It has nerve and excitement.
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I'd like to understand what you are suggesting - some kind of "quality check" or censorship? Maybe even for new members to be allowed to join?
That'll be the day. Photographic images are not amenable to ranking or being judged against rules set in stone. Perhaps one is tempted to try such evaluation if the photograph appears very conventional or cliché, but it is surely an endeavour doomed to a rapid failure. The magic of photography defies quantification.
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Nice details and DOF, Simone.
It's cloudy now, but the past week has been pretty sunny, although very cold.
Some grass in the afternoon sun
Fuji S5 17-35/2.8 (a very nice combination)
Very nice, it looks like Christmas lighting.
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@Frank
I like the subtleness of the bridge picture :) Very well done!!
( It is not only the bicycle driver and the street sign, which is cut in half. The bridge is actually missing a whole lane as well.)
I go with Bjørn, you might cut a bit of the sky.
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Thank you Lars and Simone.
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#158. Wonderful into the light shot.
THX Bjørn & Werner. I already cut some of the featureless sky but I think cutting more is a good idea.
Am I allowed to replace the picture with a trimmed version?
I think the stark color of the biker's clothing attracts attention and then disapponits expectation. After that the eye comes to rest on the horizontal line, then wanders towards the main subject, the halways dismanteled bridge. Works for me.
I can only recommend to visit more galleries and museums to get accustomed to 21st century photography. Fred Herzog is my current hero and his work is much older.
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You probably can edit the previous post, however, I strongly advise against it as the discussion following the original will be disrupted and rather meaningless.
Instead, feel free to post a revised edit as a separate post. We will turn the blind eye in this case if you were to make two posts containing an image on the same day :D
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You probably can edit the previous post, however, I strongly advise against it as the discussion following the original will be disrupted and rather meaningless. Instead, feel free to post a revised edit as a separate post. We will turn the blind eye in this case if you were to make two posts containing an image on the same day :D
Thank you. I hope this edit pleases more (as to the technical quality. It is a smartphone shot in bad light. did not have one of the big cameras on me):
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Yes, an improvement in the composition to my eye. Still some margin for cropping though, but a smartphone image might not have the required slack.
Among your better contributions !!
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Yes, an improvement in the composition to my eye. Still some margin for cropping though, but a smartphone image might not have the required slack.
Among your better contributions !!
Thank you. Sometimes I do not dare to create something "daring" ... Sometimes I do not really want to take the risk ... Sometimes I feel I even delete "better" pictures after having taken them ... Sometimes I fall for technical brilliance, though the matter and construction might be banal ... Sometimes it is so difficult to judge, esp. because I lack the distance. That is one of the reasons I post, one of the resons I do my daily training: I want to become a better photographer over time and I see the steps are small. So my calculation is that small steps every day will add up to SOMETHING over time.
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- Cold meeting -
A few times a year the volunteers at the 'City Garden' Piushaven gather to discuss the rules and the planting-season and progress. The location was in an old factory; there was no heat, or very little, close to the outside temperature of -2 C. At least the coffee was warm.
D800E Angenieux 35-70/2.5
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January 22/30
.snow on the faces.
24 01 02017
These ganite sculptures picture the heads of two Roman soldiers, Cassius and Florentius, city patrons of Bonn, said to have been murdered because they were Christians.
The artists İskender Yediler, who made these in 2002 is also known for some other sculptures of holy men in Munic, Cologne and the Black Forest region.
technical: D500 & 1.4/24G @f/1.4
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Herzog is an outstanding photographer. May be we should open a dedicated thread with pictures / links of (work of) photographers we like.
So Frank you don't mind that some comments are made on your work ? I have always a problem with this, because, here, everybody is so gentle, so polite.
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Even when a picture is not put into a dedicated 'Critique' thread, it is open to comments.
It is entirely possible to level strong criticism of a contribution without being rude. Keep away from personal attacks and NG will be just fine with your critique. We are nice, yes, but not flattering or prone to back-patting. Other sites exist for those purposes.
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So Frank you don't mind that some comments are made on your work ? I have always a problem with this, because, here, everybody is so gentle, so polite.
I am always happy when people comment, which means that the pictures raise an interest.
I am also happy with the kind of pictures posted to NG and especially to this chain of threads. Look at #172. This is a documentary shot of people showing interest in public issues although it is cold even inside. It is not a particular "artistic" shot, also not a shot of high tech IQ ,, but I think one strength of photography is to follow real life and not to exclude the day to day events.
IMO many picture takers tend to focus too much on the most beautiful locations and ways of showing things. I do not buy this. I see too many super optimized, technically brilliant and boring shots on the internet. Not here so much and that is a good thing.
I adore the daily work of John Geerts.
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Last from Pisa - countryside near the tower of Caprona.
Beautiful day today, sunny and 15 degrees C.
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Interesting Shot Frank, the statues and the background complement each other.
Lovely light, Simone. I like the composition with the castle and the road/river. I even can smell the Spring coming ;)
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John, your "cold meeting" image doesn't look just like a snapshot. There is some surreal feeling to it, which I like.
Frank, I love your "snow on the faces". Its a pleasant mixture of the worshipfulness and the humor.
Simone, your image somewhat reminds me of my visit to Pisa in the winter more than 30 years ago. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks Akira.
For some days now it is cloudy and cold. The cold weather is no reason to cancel the Open Air market. There are heating lamps to make the purchasing a more pleasant occasion...
D600 300/4.5 ED-IF AIS
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Thanks Akira.
For some days now it is cloudy and cold. The cold weather is no reason to cancel the Open Air market. There are heating lamps to make the purchasing a more pleasant occasion...
D600 300/4.5 ED-IF AIS
Strange mixture of WB points. The man with the plaid hat looks best to me. I wonder how the D500 might have solved this... one of the really big differences in the new generation...
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January 23/30
.curly whirly.
25 01 02017
I took a lot of interesting shots today, but this one is different. Somehow it makes me woozy when I look at it and it touches me emotionally too, So I chose it. I see a tendency towards monochromatic shots.
technical: D500 & 1.4/24 @f/1.4
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Strange mixture of WB points. The man with the plaid hat looks best to me. I wonder how the D500 might have solved this... one of the really big differences in the new generation...
It's not something of WB points, Frank. The man is standing in a yellowish light, and the lens and sensor captured it as it was. It is a mix of different light. The point here is the post-processing.
It was quit dark, and for a 300mm the shutter speed goes up, took some risk with 1/200, hence an increase in ISO to 720. Every increase from base ISO limits to a certain extent the post-processing possibilities.
For this picture, I did some framing to focus on the people behind the stall as I wanted to emphasize, the eagerness (or perhaps hurry) to pay, or to do the purchase quickly. So I wanted all neutral visible in the image, meaning the man in the yellow spotlight, decrease in lightness, and the others a slight decrease of the shadow.
Many ways are possible to post-process it. On Flickr I uploaded a natural version in the originale frame which reflects the cold morning atmosphere in a different way. https://www.flickr.com/photos/fisherking/32145379850/in/dateposted-public/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fisherking/32145379850/in/dateposted-public/)
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It was quit dark, and for a 300mm the shutter speed goes up, took some risk with 1/200, hence an increase in ISO to 720. Every increase from base ISO limits to a certain extent the post-processing possibilities. On Flickr I uploaded a natural version in the originale frame which reflects the cold morning atmosphere in a different way. https://www.flickr.com/photos/fisherking/32145379850/in/dateposted-public/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fisherking/32145379850/in/dateposted-public/)
I like the Flickr-version MUCH MUCH better!
I like the framing and the more intimate atmosphere. Just perfect & much better in my eyes than the version above!!!
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January 24/30
.double spread.
26 01 02017
To me double tree trunks sometimes look like legs. I took this because two double trunks, one behind the other, seem quite unusual to me.
technical: D500 & 1.4/24 @f/1.4
annotation: I might have closed the aperture a bit more
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Sunny and cold. The frost is visible in our place in fountains and frozen water pools
The Spoorzone, the former Railway factories, is still a deserted place.
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John: Perfect moment, movement, position, color scape!
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January 25/30
.75.
27 01 02017
German architecture of the 1950ies is unloved, mostly unprotected, build with very bad material and therefore replaced without further consideration. I try to fixate some typical examples with my cameras before they disappear completely. I chose this picture for today because the window decoration seems to be a hint that someone is living here since the house was built!
technical: D500 & Neo-Noct @f/1.4
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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/645/32400975072_41e0fd4821_o.jpg)
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Hi Fons:
Looks like a full value breakfast ;-)
Love to see you back here!
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Thanks Frank.
Love the 50's architecture. I always assumed it was rather good in quality. (sustainability)
Nice collection Fons. Unusual beer brands. From far away?
We still have sun and frost, but clouds, and above-zer0-weather is approaching.
City-transportation. (like the two before D600 - 300/4.5 ED-IF AIS - the poor man's PF ;) )
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Welcome back, Fons! Too much beer for me to toast your return, though. :D
John, nice atmosphere.
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John. They had to re build a lot after the war and the material was often of poor quality. There were people with old money who used cheap labour to build with expensive, lasting material. But most were poor and got what they could afford. So you can hear the neighboours having sex two storeys away because walls and ceilings are only as thin as needed to survive daily life for some decades. These houses lose heat. No insulation. You heat the outside more than the inside
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Thank you Frank, Akira, John
They came from Lidl in a box, classical ales, pre-brexit stock i think.
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Thanks Akira.
Thanks for the explanation, Frank. Didn't realize most of the post-war buildings were built so cheaply.
Fons: Brexit-beer :)
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28th, dawn.
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What a great overview again, Akira. Very wide too. How many degrees this time?
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John, thanks! The horizontal view angle should be at least 120 degree. I stitched five horizontal images taken with a 50mm lens.
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Been to the movies
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/468/32532283326_217dd10c42_o.jpg)
Nat-Lab, filmhouse cinema
saw
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Ivyw6akS-zcG6zdII5n2w (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Ivyw6akS-zcG6zdII5n2w)
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In the past Tilburg had many churches, and was also known as The Catholic city of the Netherlands. In the seventies important churches have been broken down, some have gotten another destination.
The 'Sacramentskerk' was built between 1931 and 1933 (more info here: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramentskerk_(Tilburg) (https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramentskerk_(Tilburg)) ) It used to have a copper spire. But that was removed in 1992 as a kind of precaution. There was a lot of protest, as many found the reasons for tearing down were not valid. In 2005 the Church council decided to close the church and announced plans to build appartments. Many protests followed. At the moment is completely unclear what will happen with the church
Tower in decay.
(Nikon D800E - Nikkor ED - IF 300/4.5 AIS) The lens is performing even better on the D800E. The D600 is not really made for manual lenses and feels more at home with AF-D AF-S and G lenses)
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Fons, the movie seems to be really interesting... I like this somewhat humorous image.
John, thanks for sharing interesting story. I wonder if the Netherlands suffer from the shortage of lands, much like Japan.
Your experience with Ais 300/4.5 IF ED with both D800E and D600 sounds interesting. I used Ai 400/5.6 IF ED on D610. While I enjoyed the now quite affordable super-tele lens, I felt it was a bit soft. I haven't had any chance to try either of them on D750, but even AF-S 50/1.8G appears to be sharper on D750. I wonder if the AA filter is weakened on D750 compared to D600/610 even though the pixel count remains the same.
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I think the issue with cameras using MF-glass is always the view finder. IMO the D600 finder is not the best for that purpose, although I took a big series with the D600 & the 1.4/35 Ai-S as you might remember. The D500, although DX has a wonderful grund glass. I wish I could exchange the ground glass in my D600 for the same F6-Type, but I did not find that option yet. Do you know someone here who replaced the D600 ground glass with something better?
Adding to that I always found the D70 / D70s better than the D200. The D200 features a much brighter view finder, but MF was next to impossible for me, whicle I took a lot of MF shots with the D70ies. I later replaced both grund glasses with split prism offerings, obe Katzeye, one enjoyourcamera.
Concerning the building: As long as you keep the roof in good order, no trouble will arise with the basic construction.
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Frank, I would suspect the superiority of D500 viewfinder for the manual focus is thanks to its optical system rather than the screen. D6X0 is an "entry" model for the full-frame, and the viewfinder optics could be sacrificed for lowering the cost. The same would go with D750. Our eyes were a lot younger when D70 series was current. :'(
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I think the issue with cameras using MF-glass is always the view finder. IMO the D600 finder is not the best for that purpose, although I took a big series with the D600 & the 1.4/35 Ai-S as you might remember.
Yes compared to the Df and the D800E (which I upgraded with the DK17m) the viewfinder is not the best one. A good viewfinder helps with the manual lenses.
I think de D600 viewfinder is a bit better than the D700 (which did not ever cover the 100%).
But that is not the whole part of the process. I love the D600 for it's allround-ness. The quality of the sensor is excellent. And the handling (apart from that very very irritating image zoom viewer) good with the U1 and U2 presets. Ideal for flash-settings. But it looks that AF lenses (automated) get more depth out of the sensor, than the manual one's. But perhaps that's just a feeling. Perhaps it is due to the fact that you cannot store uncompressed Raw Files. I wonder if there is a tweak to save uncompressed raw files with the D600? It should be possible.
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John, thanks for sharing interesting story. I wonder if the Netherlands suffer from the shortage of lands, much like Japan.
Yes. It is a fight about the available ground. Usually the Building companies win.
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January 26/30
.pay your duties!.
29 01 02017
The old customs station, where the rulers pressed the money from people passing Bonn with their ships has been renovated for years.
Currently we are allowed to enter the place partly. A cannon they used if people did not want to pay their duties:
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Akira, that is a gorgeous dawn.
I feel like sharing some winter colors from sunny Seville
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Nice colors Paco.
We had some sunshine, unexpected. New bicycle park at the Railway-station were the new Entrance on the north side has been opened. The low late afternoon sun glows just before leaving the city.
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John: What a bubbley bokeh
Paco: Great to see you joining!
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I had no big plans or expectations today when I went out to take pictures, I am surprised at the end of the day there are more than one picture that I'd like to post. But only one has to be chosen, so there it goes.
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I had no big plans or expectations today when I went out to take pictures, I am surprised at the end of the day there are more than one picture that I'd like to post. But only one has to be chosen, so there it goes.
I that wonderful structure ICE?
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January 29th.
Todays work was as a photographer for the Danish championship in cross country skiing, held in Norway 8).
The assignment is for the whole week :)
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sunday afternoon walk
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I that wonderful structure ICE?
Yes, ice on my car window.
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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/367/32226861670_7128a51cbd_o.jpg)
D500 85mm f/1.4D
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Beautiful ice-structure, Simone.
Real snow Bent.
Great portrait Fons (and a great lens too)
Shopping
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Bent: looking forward to seeing your pictures from the event. Seems to be enough snow for skiing!
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DJI Mavic Pro; view around Brussels.
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A highly filtered, though not unpleasant, aerial view. Apparently there are lots of details present.
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DJI Mavic Pro; view around Brussels.
In due time I would be very interested in hearing what you think of the quality of the Mavic pro's camera.
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Ok Simone. I will open an dedicated thread in the coming days 😊
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Bent: looking forward to seeing your pictures from the event. Seems to be enough snow for skiing!
For all the participants and the families not attending I upload to my website (hjarbo.dk)
Most of the picture are absolutely most valuable for the participants, but I try to do some more artistic, showing the speed ;)
Real snow Bent.
Yes but we would like to have more, this is a very unusual winter in some parts of Norway this year.
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D500 85mm f/1.4D
Fons
Beautiful portrait, lovely
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Jan. 30.
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Woman in yellow
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From Le Bouveret to Martigny (CH):
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I love the top-down-view in #218. Very cool graphics. What are the drone regulations in Belgium? In Germany the shot would be illegal in many respects.
Very interesting night scene, Akira. What time?
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I love the top-down-view in #218. Very cool graphics. What are the drone regulations in Belgium? In Germany the shot would be illegal in many respects....
Thank you Frank. I think this picture, in Belgium, is illegal too; the only softener is that my son, who was flying the drone, is a licensed airline pilot (to the extent this might help...). In Switzerland it's quite cool: basically, you cannot fly over crowds and you should stay 5km away from an airport.
In this perspective, I opened a dedicated thread http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/topic,5361.msg85171.html#msg85171
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Here is my picture of january. It has been an extraordinary warm winter, so there are almost no snow, even in the mountains..
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/614/31786576564_526c367486_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QqSvMw)
Skarvet (https://flic.kr/p/QqSvMw) by Asle Feten (https://www.flickr.com/photos/afoton/), on Flickr
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Asle: what a calm wide panorama
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Thank you Bent and John
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/410/32251222010_225fa404f6_o.jpg)
Time will tell
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DJI Mavic Pro; view around Brussels.
Interesting, pretty sharp and very nice details. !
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The past few days are cloudy, rainy and still pretty cold
Work must go on....
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Interesting, pretty sharp and very nice details. !
Thank you John !
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Thank you Bent and John
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/410/32251222010_225fa404f6_o.jpg)
Time will tell
Were you allowed to take this beautiful artifact home? Great picture of sophisticated versus rough!!!
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Very interesting night scene, Akira. What time?
Thanks, Frank. The image was shot at around 9:00 PM. It was the weekday night, and the street runs in the middle of the residential area. So, few people could be seen at that time of the day.
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Frank i only touched it with my camera, ;)