When I use one light source I almost always use TTL flash. However when I use two or more lights I find TTL too complicated and revert to manual power.
The SU-800’s worse problem for me is when setting manual power it only offers full stops. That’s a deal breaker. The SU-800 has a limited beam spread and it can’t swivel. It only project straight ahead. An SB-500 can tilt up 90 degrees and swivel 180 degrees both right and left so there is a better chance of sending the signals where they are needed. The SB-500 can control two groups A and B and use one of four channels and it offers 1/3 stops for manual control of remotes.
I’ve only found one SU-800 knockoff and it doesn’t seem to be available. I can’t find an online manual but an unboxing video noted only a Chinese manual so I don’t know if it will set manual power at 1/3 stops.
The Nikon SB-5000 as a commander can control three groups, A, B and C. I’d like that but the size, weight and price are deal breakers, particularly the price. The SB-500 is $247.00 (USD) at B&H as I type. The SB-5000 is $597.00 (USD). The SB-5000 is twice the price and must be twice the weight.
So I’m most likely to end up with an SB-500 as commander and for small objects at close range, something I do; not to interesting, I need to block the visible light. It I were photographing people the preflashes sometimes result in blinking. There is a "thing" that flips down over the SB-800's popup. I gab one later and note it product identification. Anyway always used the "thing" when using my D800's popup as commander.
There just isn’t a perfect solution.
DAVe,
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