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Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« on: June 05, 2020, 04:42:49 »
Looking at this group shot I am wondering about the lens on the far right - is this the upcoming 200mm FL version???
D6 with 120-300mm
from left to right: 80-400, 180-400, 200-400, 800, 600, 500, 400, 300, and ???
Logically it would be the 200mm VRII (which I own) but the lens shown exhibits the updated FL design!
Wondering???
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2020, 09:11:34 »
Difficult to say, little resolution, cant read the digits, the lens looks like a typical FL- Design but very different compared to the current 200/2 VRII - so does the 400/2,8 FL compared to its precedessor. The 300/2,8 appear not to be FL but the current version.

The fourth in the row from the right side is NOT the 500/4 FL (uodate: my assumption is wrong)

i am not sure with the 200-400/4 either
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2020, 09:25:33 »
I would rather bet on the 500mm f/5.6E PF.
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2020, 10:35:03 »
I would rater bet on the 500mm f/5.6E PF.

That sounds reasonable. I second that
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2020, 14:37:34 »
That sounds reasonable. I second that
Agree 500 PF

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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2020, 18:06:51 »
I found the pic on seveal Webpages, including nikonrumors but all with very limited resolution


BTW the 300 mm f/4 PF is missing!
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2020, 02:37:28 »
Difficult to say, little resolution, cant read the digits, the lens looks like a typical FL- Design but very different compared to the current 200/2 VRII - so does the 400/2,8 FL compared to its precedessor. The 300/2,8 appear not to be FL but the current version.

The fourth in the row from the right side is NOT the 500/4 FL

i am not sure with the 200-400/4 either
My bad, didn't think about the 500mm PF  >:(
Concur with the 300mm being the AF-S VRII but don't agree with your interpretations of the 500 and 200-400mm as shown.
No doubt due to unique features on the lens barrel.
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2020, 08:19:11 »
In a recent review of the D6, It was stated that a Icon could be witnessed in the Viewfinder showing that a Lens with a built in TC had the TC Engaged for use.
The assumption was that this Icon was a excessive information when only one Nikon lens has the built in TC feature.
Is there more built in TC Lenses to be released ??
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2020, 08:51:40 »
So these super-teles are only made in F-mount.
Is that because you can't benefit from larger mount / closer distance to sensor when designing super teles?
It may also be cost…..that there is not a market for these in Z-mount yet.

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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2020, 09:47:23 »
Concur with the 300mm being the AF-S VRII but don't agree with your interpretations of the 500 and 200-400mm as shown.

I have to correct my statement regarding the 500, I was mislead by another foto, in fact it suits and its logical to place the 500 at that place, which is also valid for the 200-400 where I expressed my uncertainty
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2020, 10:00:59 »
Is there more built in TC Lenses to be released ??

Nobody knows.
My question is: does it make sense, and for which additional lenses would it make sense?

I dont think that it would be favorable to have Nikon make is whole supertele-lens Lineup TC versions -and I dont expect them to double the series to have one version of each lens  with built in TC and one.

The advantages of TC: more versatility, dedicated Teleconverter is better than external

The disadvantages: it makes the lens more heavier and complicated and more expensive and its there even when you do not need TC
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2020, 10:08:42 »
So these super-teles are only made in F-mount.
Is that because you can't benefit from larger mount / closer distance to sensor when designing super teles?
It may also be cost…..that there is not a market for these in Z-mount yet.

Currently there are only F-Mount superteles, that might change in the future. The advantage of larger mount in this range is not as high as it is with shorter focal length
Nikon is currently still at the beginning of rolling out Z-mount lineup and the priorities are evidently not in the long range
The F-mount Superteles easily can be used on Z-Cameras with FTZ so there is one lineup for two camera systems. Dont forget Superteles are expensive so is their construction and development, it costs more efforts to run two supertele series in parallel - take a 600/4 lens compared to a  say 24/1,8 lens.
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2020, 11:52:14 »
This is my 500mm f/5.6E PF, for comparison purposes:


Nikkor 500mm f/5.6E PF
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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2020, 14:18:35 »
Like Meper, i'm also curious.

Currently there are only F-Mount superteles, that might change in the future.

When you say superteles, there arent even any telephotos in the Z mount lineup.
I don't count zooms as an alternative (and Nikon's recent zoom teles are way outside my budget)


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Re: Nikon D6 w super tele lens lineup - new FL lens???
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2020, 15:20:52 »
Like Meper, i'm also curious.

When you say superteles, there arent even any telephotos in the Z mount lineup.
I don't count zooms as an alternative (and Nikon's recent zoom teles are way outside my budget)

I'd considered the Z-mount  85 mm f/1,8 S as (slight) tele
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