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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1320 on: August 30, 2020, 10:57:18 »
Erik, congratulations! I am looking forward to seeing many examples here!

Don't sell your DSLR(s) yet! I really regret selling my D750!  Mirrorless might be the future but IMHO DSLRs are still better not only for action but also for events.
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1321 on: August 30, 2020, 15:09:32 »
Thank you 

Agree definitely the Z7 is an addition to my DSLR - not an replacement.

AF is reasonable, the f/2.8 zooms work quite well, but it’s quite obvious a completely different AF system.
I installed the Firmware update also for FTZ all lenses seems to work quite well or as advertised

So yes what Z lenses makes sense, for a DSLR shooter with a stable of lenses all ready?

How much will the 50mm f/1.2 cost, weigh - looks very large as well so,,, no f/1.4,,, the f/1.8 seems almost too perfect  ;D

The 28mm AF-S E f/1.4 is so amazing witch rules out the need for both 24mm or 35mm f/1.8 In Z mount

My 14-24 f/2.8 AF-S covers the wide end perfectly on the Z7, so no need for the 20mm f/1.8 Z

But would be nice with a native Z lens  8)
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1322 on: August 30, 2020, 15:29:44 »
too bad theres no REAL vertical grip :o :o :o

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1323 on: August 30, 2020, 15:42:26 »
Yes, completely agree ! But the Wepoto does a great job of making it similar / same height as the D850  8)
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1324 on: August 31, 2020, 18:39:35 »
So,,, I have joined the so called Mirrorless side - I just received a Z7 with FTZ and a I'm thrilled  8) I will definitely keep the D850 for action etc. A constant annoyance I have is the constant need for reading glasses when using my D850 for using the menu, settings and the rear display for image sharpness and details,,, The Z7 completely solves this since I can use the viewfinder,,, Maybe old news for most of you but new for me ;)

The second feature was the body build in VR, really nice feature that gives new life and functionality to all of my AFS lenses that simply not is available with build in lens VR, or I have chosen not to upgrade due to various reasons.

Looking forward to mastering focus peaking, getting the most out of the now, MF lenses AF-D and Ais  ;D


My experience with focus peaking is that it is OK for general focusing, but not sufficient for critical focus. For that I've assigned the Fn1 and Fn2 buttons to 50% and 200% viewfinder magnification. With manual lenses, just tap the button to confirm focus. You can also use it when viewing images to make sure you don't have camera shake blur. I find this better than using the default 100% magnification on the back selector.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1325 on: August 31, 2020, 21:52:53 »
Yes Jack, that sounds like a nice way of setting that up.
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1326 on: August 31, 2020, 21:55:14 »
Getting to know the little Z7
Someone painted this on the wall outside my room,,,  :o Nice slice of life  ;D
28mm AF-S E @ 1.4
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1327 on: September 11, 2020, 07:51:49 »
Z5 sensor has been tested at photonstophotos.net
Photographic Dynamic Range (pretty similar to D750):
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Nikon%20D750,Nikon%20Z%205,Nikon%20Z%206

Input Referred Noise:
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/RN_e.htm#Nikon%20Z%205_14,Nikon%20Z%206_14

Z-5 pattern noise compared to Z6 (Need to make selections left and right, etc) :
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/Sensor_Heatmaps.htm
Z5 seems to have a little less banding than Z6, but not sure if the Z6 data are from after the firmware improvement:
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1328 on: September 11, 2020, 11:11:39 »
Really enjoying the Z7 a lot ;) However,,, this had me a little puzzled  :o

First image is at f/1.8 50mm Z f/1.8 1/8000 - Tack sharp, see also the 100% crop
Last image is at f/5.6 1/800 - Blurry, building top left even looks like it has movement - I admit I shot it in great haste so maybe the focus did not have time to finish since I was in AF-C - Or I moved the camera before the shutter closed,,, Or?

Does the 50mm have several focus motors or just one? Could look like nothing at all is sharp, if one element was still not in position,,,

IBIS was On.
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1329 on: September 11, 2020, 19:40:34 »
Z5 sensor has been tested at photonstophotos.net
Photographic Dynamic Range (pretty similar to D750):
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Nikon%20D750,Nikon%20Z%205,Nikon%20Z%206

Input Referred Noise:
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/RN_e.htm#Nikon%20Z%205_14,Nikon%20Z%206_14

Z-5 pattern noise compared to Z6 (Need to make selections left and right, etc) :
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/Sensor_Heatmaps.htm
Z5 seems to have a little less banding than Z6, but not sure if the Z6 data are from after the firmware improvement:

Good stuff, Oivind, it looks like the Z models are quite close in performance. The Z50 interests me, but the lack og IBIS. coupled with my ARMD, is giving me pause.
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1330 on: September 11, 2020, 19:45:52 »
Really enjoying the Z7 a lot ;) However,,, this had me a little puzzled  :o

First image is at f/1.8 50mm Z f/1.8 1/8000 - Tack sharp, see also the 100% crop
Last image is at f/5.6 1/800 - Blurry, building top left even looks like it has movement - I admit I shot it in great haste so maybe the focus did not have time to finish since I was in AF-C - Or I moved the camera before the shutter closed,,, Or?

Does the 50mm have several focus motors or just one? Could look like nothing at all is sharp, if one element was still not in position,,,

IBIS was On.


Impressive work from the Z7-Z50mm. Anyone have  examples of that Z50mm. or the Z85mm, Z35mm, on a Z50?
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1331 on: September 14, 2020, 13:17:02 »
I have issues transferring video on z50 to iPad-iPhone with SnapBridge you have to wait for the transfer and finally SnapBridge say : camera not found
I now the limitations about mp4 and size that didn’t help
Do you?

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1332 on: September 14, 2020, 13:30:17 »
Really enjoying the Z7 a lot ;) However,,, this had me a little puzzled  :o

First image is at f/1.8 50mm Z f/1.8 1/8000 - Tack sharp, see also the 100% crop
Last image is at f/5.6 1/800 - Blurry, building top left even looks like it has movement - I admit I shot it in great haste so maybe the focus did not have time to finish since I was in AF-C - Or I moved the camera before the shutter closed,,, Or?

Does the 50mm have several focus motors or just one? Could look like nothing at all is sharp, if one element was still not in position,,,

IBIS was On.

Af is very different from the d850 to say the least, at times the z seems to hesitate latching on focus has been my experience as well.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1333 on: September 21, 2020, 15:18:07 »
I update my iPhone to IOS 14 but I still get : camera not found when transferring videos from SnapBridge
Have you ever  check to your Z camera?

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #1334 on: September 21, 2020, 15:21:26 »
I stopped doind video transfer alreadybwith the d750. Just using it for the ocasional foto transfer for family or social media.