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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #540 on: January 22, 2019, 05:39:32 »
Birna, these images are unbelievable...
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #541 on: January 22, 2019, 10:40:05 »
Birna, these images are unbelievable...

Even am impressed myself -- so cannot wait for the Noct* 58/0.95 S to be released. I have it on pre-order
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #542 on: January 22, 2019, 11:41:23 »
Even am impressed myself -- so cannot wait for the Noct* 58/0.95 S to be released. I have it on pre-order
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You should be able to freeze a crow in flight at night.
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #543 on: January 22, 2019, 12:12:38 »
Well, there remains the small problem of focusing -- the new Noct, in common with its predecessors in the F line, is a manual-focus lens only.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #544 on: January 22, 2019, 12:16:11 »
Well, there remains the small problem of focusing -- the new Noct, in common with its predecessors in the F line, is a manual-focus lens only.

Okay, then you could test the resolution by shooting a black cat sleeping...
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #545 on: January 22, 2019, 15:26:56 »
Thank you, Birna. Even 200k are still usable and better than film at 1600 ASA. Stunnig.
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #546 on: January 22, 2019, 15:37:38 »
Indeed, impressive.    I've still not had a need to shoot beyond ISO 12,800...but it is good to see that these images are possible well beyond what I am shooting.   I might need to experiment a little bit more!  :D
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #547 on: January 22, 2019, 15:44:31 »
Indeed, impressive.    I've still not had a need to shoot beyond ISO 12,800...but it is good to see that these images are possible well beyond what I am shooting.   I might need to experiment a little bit more!  :D

note that with earlier generations the exposure latitute gets smaller and smaller the higher you pump the ISO. With a rental D5 I saw similar results at ISO 100k, but half a stop makes a huge difference like it was with slide film in film days
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #548 on: January 22, 2019, 16:23:17 »
note that with earlier generations the exposure latitute gets smaller and smaller the higher you pump the ISO. With a rental D5 I saw similar results at ISO 100k, but half a stop makes a huge difference like it was with slide film in film days

True, I definitely keep those kinds of factors in mind when the need comes to shoot ISO 3200 and beyond.
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #549 on: January 23, 2019, 23:16:15 »
For those wanting to have look inside the Z6 :

https://kolarivision.com/nikon-z6-disassembly-teardown/

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #550 on: January 27, 2019, 09:25:10 »
FWIW, here's the cross section of the comming 14-30/4.0 Zoom for the patent application.  L41 is the focusing element.

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https://hi-lows-note.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2019-01-17
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #551 on: January 27, 2019, 10:52:03 »
A lens for all seasons ... already ordered.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #552 on: January 27, 2019, 11:28:05 »
A lens for all seasons ... already ordered.

Which one will be first? The new Noct or this one? :D
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #553 on: January 27, 2019, 12:21:14 »
Which one will be first? The new Noct or this one? :D

It's a toss-up at present, me thinks. Need to ensure there is enough funds in the banking account, though.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #554 on: January 27, 2019, 13:45:10 »
My wild guess is that both Neo-Noct and 14-30 zoom will be releast at the same time.  At this moment, they are the only Z lenses whose outlooks are known.
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