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Bjørn Rørslett

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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2015, 15:53:16 »
Not bad for the "neo-Noct", but I fear the difference is a little biased as the right-hand side photo clearly isn't focused optimally.

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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2015, 17:17:26 »
Both images were live view focused on the tip of the flower. No wind, so that couldn't cause the shift.
The 58 just seems to have more depth than the 60 in this setting, but the focus was as accurate as I could get it. I'll try it again tomorrow with a more controlled set up.

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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #62 on: November 05, 2015, 17:27:08 »
As a minimum work with a tripod-mounted camera ...

Some lenses do exhibit a focus shift when the aperture is closed down, so for accurate Liveview it's beneficial to set the lens to the intended aperture (at least when you are working in the large to medium apertures, otherwise amplification noise rules out any additional focusing accuracy anyway).

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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #63 on: November 05, 2015, 17:30:55 »
The first comparison was live view focused at the shooting aperture.

Here is another example.
Live view at recording aperture.
Secure on tripod with mirror lock up and remote release.


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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #64 on: November 05, 2015, 17:38:50 »
The neo-Noct is getting better ...

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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #65 on: November 05, 2015, 17:54:01 »
Remember it is not sharp.... Not  8)
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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2015, 18:06:54 »
I'm exceedingly impressed by it. As much as it's not the perfect lens for every situation, it's far better than what reviews have made it out to be.
The only thing it can't do is replace my retro fitted Helios 44M-4 (58mm f/2)  :P

The 58G has mild field curvature at infinity, but thats easy to combat with deliberate focus placement. As much as it is sharp for landscapes, it's micro contrast extends well into the far corners, giving it a brilliance and clarity I don't get with my Ais 50/1.2 or AF-D 50/1.8. More noticeable in lower contrast shadow details. This probably has a lot to do with the Nano Coat, right?



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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #67 on: November 05, 2015, 19:52:20 »
Interesting comparison of the AFS 58mm vs 60mm micro. In the flower picture, the background bokeh appear similar for both lenses - in "quantity" and smoothness. The picture taken with the 60mm shows stronger green outlining on the white object in the background, which suggests longitudinal CA is less well controlled - the 58mm is better. In the picture of the seeds, the 60mm shot again shows more of a greenish tinge in the shadows between the seeds. In this case the 60mm shot appears to have less DOF - the background seeds are more out of focus than the 58mm shot, hard to say why.

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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #68 on: November 05, 2015, 21:11:56 »
Merci Jacques pour cette photo from Shropshire forest!

Wonderful example of what you can do with care, imagination and good equipment!

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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #69 on: November 11, 2015, 18:50:46 »
I have the opportunity to buy a very mint sample for ca. 875 USD. Is this an ok price these days?

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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #70 on: November 11, 2015, 20:28:00 »
It seems to be the case. The only one I know is proposed at 1100€...
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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #71 on: November 11, 2015, 20:56:42 »
Sten, that seems rather cheap, about half the new price?

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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #72 on: November 12, 2015, 07:43:23 »
I have the opportunity to buy a very mint sample for ca. 875 USD. Is this an ok price these days?
Same as I paid for the lens
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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #73 on: November 12, 2015, 08:03:58 »
Typically...the seller now says he's not selling the lens after all  >:(
I am contemplating a 70-200/2.8 or the "Neoct". Leaning towards the latter so the offer was just right. Oh well...the search continues.

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Re: Nikkor 58mm f/1.4 AFS The New Noct-Nikkor
« Reply #74 on: November 12, 2015, 11:14:03 »

I see more contrast and details in the 58mm shot and a cooler color rendition. Which WB did you use?
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