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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2016, 11:33:10 »
sounds like a challenge  :o :o :o

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2016, 12:42:06 »
To me the 36-72E seems to be quite wenn built...

I got mine in a bundle with other lenses and a strange leather case for 150.

If I sell the other items included like a 70-210E and a 1.8/50E I can keep the lens for 20 Euros in like new condition.

plus I have some close up lenses and some extension rings and the strange leather case, not to forget A Nikon FG body.
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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2016, 11:15:21 »
for people experiencing a tight fit for the BR-2, do not worry it is normal. the BR-2 is a tight fit for many Nikon cameras  :o :o :o

just ordered a junk and expecting it to arrive tonight or tomorrow. I am interested to see the internals...

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2016, 11:55:38 »
The bayonet mount of the 36-72 is something very special even within a Nikon world. A strange sandwich-like construction. It's kind of hard to imagine this would save money in the production of this humble lens. Perhaps they could get away with much cheaper materials though.

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2016, 13:19:29 »
Here it is  :o :o :o

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2016, 15:47:35 »
OK, now I know why and where Nikon cut corners  :o :o :o

i also saw the laminated construction for the bayonet mount, strange as i do not see the benefit. maybe Nikon is going to use the same mount for another E lens  ::)

overall, this felt like a simplified 43-86 that was mixed in with some engineering from the 80-200 f/4 Ai-s  ::)

I counted 2 plastic parts so far on this lens. i was expecting more to be honest.

i really hated working with this lens, Nikon went all out with the glue and epoxy. and as usual with lenses of this class (cheap zooms) Nikon used annoying tricks that makes assembly and disassembly hard by using less materials while using clever tricks to make mesh together.

the screws also felt inferior when compared to regular Nikon lenses...

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2016, 16:00:10 »
At least they didn't use sticky tape to hold stuff together ...

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2016, 16:06:26 »
At least they didn't use sticky tape to hold stuff together ...
not on this one  ::)

but the expensive 80-200 f/4 Ai-s did!  :o :o :o
and to think that its almost as expensive as the cheapest toyota in my country when it came out  ::)

the focus throw is also VERY short on this lens. a heavy grease is needed. I may need to get a thicker silicone oil for this.

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2016, 05:54:10 »
OK, just overhauled this thing...

my sample looks really bad on 72mm at f/3.5  :o :o :o

at f/5.6 it looks a lot better (acceptable).

and f/8 looks good.

32mm and 50mm looks a lot better at f/3.5 compared to 72mm (ugly at f/3.5), f/5.6 looks acceptable and again f/8 looks nice

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2016, 09:42:05 »
OK, just overhauled this thing...

my sample looks really bad on 72mm at f/3.5 


What do you mean by bad, Richard? 

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2016, 13:34:35 »
What do you mean by bad, Richard?
Hello, John. Bad as in the images are not good at all. it is not sharp and the CA and other artefacts makes it look ugly. it does not look as bad on the other focal lengths. :o :o :o

I tested this lens on the park this afternoon on my wife and 72mm with all those imperfections make for a nice portrait lens  ::)

one reason for this is because I got this lens for $8 with fungus damage and just overhauled it  ::)

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2016, 13:55:39 »
I have several samples of the 36-72 and they all deliver crisp and clear images over the entire focal range.

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #57 on: March 05, 2016, 14:02:23 »
The most strange F- mount I have ever seen  :o

I can't understand the intention to save on production and come up with something like that!

Yes chipping it was a nightmare. Also as I recall it came in a bag ;)
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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2016, 23:13:57 »
Bad as in the images are not good at all. it is not sharp and the CA and other artefacts makes it look ugly. it does not look as bad on the other focal lengths.
That's strange indeed. My sample gives sharp images as well.  With vivid colours too.  There is only some distortion going on, on the short end of the zoom.

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Re: Nikon Series E - 36-72/3.5
« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2016, 02:10:56 »
Hello. if you have a look at the collage:
36mm looks pretty decent
50mm still looks decent
72mm looks really bad
72mm at f/4 looks a lot better but still trailing behind 36mm & 50mm at f/3.5

Now, if you look at the 72mm f/3.5 pic (3rd) it seems that my daughter's baby food looks decently sharp. I suspect some back focusing at 72mm in my sample. also note the ugly bokeh balls.

My wife was happy. yesterday I shot her at the park at 72mm wide open  :o :o :o

not sure but the fungus damage might have done this. you cannot see any trace of the fungus damage now but if you shine a light at an angle you can see slight imperfections (front and rear elements). i believe that this will not affect the IQ in any lens but who knows?