Author Topic: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes  (Read 4951 times)

chambeshi

  • Guest
Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« on: October 21, 2017, 13:43:49 »
Here's a recent report. Interesting field review of Nikon lenses on the D850, especially for landscapes

http://fritzimages.com/blog/2017/nikon-d850-lens-review/33109/

Hugh_3170

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 2127
  • Back in Melbourne!
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2017, 17:14:46 »
Ed Fritz noted that "I did not like the D850 and the new 2017, Nikon AFS-70-200/E combination."

Anyone else come to this same conclusion in respect of their D850 experiences with this lens?
Hugh Gunn

Ilkka Nissilä

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1712
  • You ARE NikonGear
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2017, 17:37:28 »
Well, the 70-200/2.8 FL is fantastic on the D810. The D850 isn’t likely to be any worse.

MFloyd

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1801
  • My quest for the "perfect" speed blur
    • Adobe Portfolio
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2017, 20:03:34 »
Here's a recent report. Interesting field review of Nikon lenses on the D850, especially for landscapes

http://fritzimages.com/blog/2017/nikon-d850-lens-review/33109/

I have not been overly impressed with this article, neither his pictures, which are systematically oversaturated.  I'm quite surprised about the D850 / 70.200 mm f/2.8E FL VR comments ... As I have only this outstanding lens, but no D850, so difficult to comment
Γνῶθι σεαυτόν

Frank Fremerey

  • engineering art
  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 12616
  • Bonn, Germany
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2017, 21:50:55 »
I resonate the verdict on the1.8/20. Exceptional lens on every camera.

The 1.8/85G and the 1.4/105E are wonderful and the 8-15fish.

Did not use the 4/300pf yet on the D850 so I cannot comment on that one and the other glass in my bag and cupboard.

Next in line: 1.4/58G which can be tricky at times...
You are out there. You and your camera. You can shoot or not shoot as you please. Discover the world, Your world. Show it to us. Or we might never see it.

Me: https://youpic.com/photographer/frankfremerey/

Hugh_3170

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 2127
  • Back in Melbourne!
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2017, 17:27:14 »
Thanks everyone - I too was surprised at his claim with respect to this lens which has certainly impressed others (and it works well on his D5 he says).  I have a D810, but not the lens (yet), so I was a little concerned by his remarks.

I have not been overly impressed with this article, neither his pictures, which are systematically oversaturated.  I'm quite surprised about the D850 / 70.200 mm f/2.8E FL VR comments ... As I have only this outstanding lens, but no D850, so difficult to comment
Hugh Gunn

CS

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1240
  • You ARE NikonGear
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2017, 18:21:37 »
I have not been overly impressed with this article, neither his pictures, which are systematically oversaturated. 


There seems to be a growing trend toward what I would call very obvious over saturation. IMO, the results look artificial, plasticky, reminding me of a video game such as Myst. Some new editing programs like Aurora and Luminar promote such images in their advertising. It's almost as though they're promoting an alternate reality.

Some of this stuff is just too much. How can Fritz judge a lens using such results to draw his conclusions? JMO

Carl

FritzIMages

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • You ARE NikonGear
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2017, 19:11:26 »
Hi Everyone- thanks for the feedback and comments.  It's interesting that my article was picked up by NG as I have not yet posted it thru social media. I was waiting until Monday to that. I wrote the article because I wanted to put some info out there about the D850 lens as compared to the recent NIKON D850 lens recommendation list. To be sure, once this camera gets into the hands of thousands there will be others who will provide the additional detail and lens nuances that we require. I am not that guy writing those kinds of articles.  A great source of detail info for the D850 is LLyod Chambers website...In a nutshell, I thought all the glass I used, on the Nikon list or not, made great images at 45.7Mp! 

I thought I'd clarify my comments on my article about the 70-200E.  My comments were about the new ergonomics of the 70-200/E and not the lens performance.  Thanks for your comments I just clarified and corrected my article to add more detail.

I tend to make images using the camera setting at Nikon Picture control Vivid or Landscape and not Flat or Neutral. I also run my images thru Nikon NX2 and not ACR before PS. This may amp the color saturation, however, I am always starting with a NIKON Raw file the way its set by Nikon.. My final post-processing workflow is continually evolving and adjusting and I appreciate some of the comments.   This is the first published image I have made with the D850 and it is 100% in camera.  The image as is received a twitter social like from Diane Varner ! (DianeVarner.com).

Finally,  I just published a companion article on the actual image called Little Sunapee, (http://fritzimag.es/lttlsunapee) where I post-processed the image with Luminar, TK V5 Luminosity masks and a few sharpening actions.   Have a great day everyone !

Jack Dahlgren

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1528
  • You ARE NikonGear
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2017, 00:56:20 »
Hi Everyone- thanks for the feedback and comments.  It's interesting that my article was picked up by NG as I have not yet posted it thru social media. I was waiting until Monday to that. I wrote the article because I wanted to put some info out there about the D850 lens as compared to the recent NIKON D850 lens recommendation list. To be sure, once this camera gets into the hands of thousands there will be others who will provide the additional detail and lens nuances that we require. I am not that guy writing those kinds of articles.  A great source of detail info for the D850 is LLyod Chambers website...In a nutshell, I thought all the glass I used, on the Nikon list or not, made great images at 45.7Mp! 

I thought I'd clarify my comments on my article about the 70-200E.  My comments were about the new ergonomics of the 70-200/E and not the lens performance.  Thanks for your comments I just clarified and corrected my article to add more detail.

I tend to make images using the camera setting at Nikon Picture control Vivid or Landscape and not Flat or Neutral. I also run my images thru Nikon NX2 and not ACR before PS. This may amp the color saturation, however, I am always starting with a NIKON Raw file the way its set by Nikon.. My final post-processing workflow is continually evolving and adjusting and I appreciate some of the comments.   This is the first published image I have made with the D850 and it is 100% in camera.  The image as is received a twitter social like from Diane Varner ! (DianeVarner.com).

Finally,  I just published a companion article on the actual image called Little Sunapee, (http://fritzimag.es/lttlsunapee) where I post-processed the image with Luminar, TK V5 Luminosity masks and a few sharpening actions.   Have a great day everyone !

Your clarifications left me confused. You state it is wonderful on D5 and “Best Nikon glass wasted on D850”. Then you say it is an ergonomic problem with the lens. If the lens is an ergonomic problem, then how can it be wonderful on D5?

charlie

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 587
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2017, 04:48:31 »
I fear your words are as over saturated as your photos.

Jack, that wasn't very nice. 




David H. Hartman

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2789
  • I Doctor Photographs... :)
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2017, 05:54:28 »
I have a D810, but not the lens (yet), so I was a litte concerned by his remarks.
I don't recall that he in anyway explained why he didn't like the new AF-S 70-200/2.8E FL ED VR on the D850. If he doesn't why? I'd just blow off his comments.

Dave Hartman

Think on the poor saps like me who only have the AF 80-200/2.8D ED (New).
Beatniks are out to make it rich
Oh no, must be the season of the witch!

David H. Hartman

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2789
  • I Doctor Photographs... :)
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2017, 06:03:22 »
I just clarified and corrected my article to add more detail.
OK, when I get time I'll read the article again. :)

Dave who would like to be dissatisfied with the AF-S 70-200/2.8E FL, etc. on a D850 and satisfied with it on a D5 but can't because he owns none of these.
Beatniks are out to make it rich
Oh no, must be the season of the witch!

David H. Hartman

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2789
  • I Doctor Photographs... :)
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2017, 15:19:31 »
"It doesn’t have a prayer competing with the D5 or D4s in fast-paced environments because of its toy-like slower fps." --FritzImages Outdoor Travel Photography

"toy-like" ??

You have lost me, this time for good.

Dave Hartman
Beatniks are out to make it rich
Oh no, must be the season of the witch!

Jack Dahlgren

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1528
  • You ARE NikonGear
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2017, 16:00:52 »
"It doesn’t have a prayer competing with the D5 or D4s in fast-paced environments because of its toy-like slower fps." --FritzImages Outdoor Travel Photography

"toy-like" ??

You have lost me, this time for good.

Dave Hartman

Given the language and focus on social media exposure, this looks like click-bait to me.

Michael Erlewine

  • Close-Up Photographer
  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 2067
  • Close-Up with APO
    • Spirit Grooves
Re: Nikkors on D850 for landscapes
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2017, 17:32:47 »
"Horses of courses" IMO. For me, not an interesting article, even for what little landscape I do. The trip sounds like fun.
MichaelErlewine.smugmug.com, Daily Blog at https://www.facebook.com/MichaelErlewine. main site: SpiritGrooves.net, https://www.youtube.com/user/merlewine, Founder: MacroStop.com, All-Music Guide, All-Movie Guide, Classic Posters.com, Matrix Software, DharmaGrooves.com