HS-9 or Similar on the 35mm AIS 1.4

[TedBaker]

I have owned 35mm AIS 1.4 and the screw in hood that it comes with for many years.  The screw in hood always annoyed me.

Will the HS-9 (for the 50mm 1.4) fit, I assume so as they both have a 52mm thread? And if so do you get any vignetting if you don't use a filter, or if so how much?

I am considering ordering one and cutting it down, or alternative ideas?

Thanks

[F2F3F6]

Hello TedBaker !

Looking at the "Nikon Lens Hoods HS Series" sheet from 1984, I found following "short" lens hoods: (front diameter / lenght from lens top or spring latch without threads)

HS 2 (for 2/50) or HS 6 (for 2/50) : 69,5 mm/28,3mm

HS 3 (for 1,2/55) ?

HS 4, HS 8 and HS 14 : for 2,5/105 or 2,8/105 micro too long ! HS 10 (for 2/85) too long !

HS 5 or HS 9 (for 1,4/50) : ? / 30,4 mm

HS 7 (1,2/58 Noct or 2,8/80AF for F3AF) : 78,5 / 39,0mm

HS 11(1,8/50) : 66 / 23,4mm

HS 12 (1,2/50) : 78,5 / 34mm

Compare them to HN3 (recommanded lens hood for 1,4/35) : 74 mm/19,1mm so the shortest HS lens hood to try would be HS 11 but it has 8mm less in diameter and 4,2mm more lenght...HS 6 :5mm less diameter and 9mm more lenght.

Try HS 11 or HS 6 would be my suggestion...but not sure it does it without vignetting...(perhaps not in DX mode, but in FX). If you try, give us your results !

[Bjørn Rørslett]

The benefit of the screw-in hoods is they stay put. More than what can be said about the slip-on or snap-on types which are prone to fall off.

[Erik Lund]

I'm with Bjørn here, the Nikon Screw in stays put!

As always; Rolands pages come in handy If anyone are in doubt what the original fitting ones are,,,

http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/accessory.html

[F2F3F6]

I answered Ted's question, but for me too the HN series is more secure than the HS spring loaded so I'm also with Bjørn and Erik !

And they can stay and you can use a bigger lens cap right on the hood...

[Frank Fremerey]

I have owned 35mm AIS 1.4 and the screw in hood that it comes with for many years.  The screw in hood always annoyed me.

I use a HN-1 and I am happy with it.

[David H. Hartman]

The screw in stay put. The new style snap on hoods are pretty good about staying. The old ones with chrome pins jump off every time an attractive woman walks by. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I'd stay with the screw in.

Dave Hartman

[David H. Hartman]

And they can stay and you can use a bigger lens cap right on the hood...

The Tupperware #G tumbler caps fit many Nikon hoods of the classic era. They were even recommended by the Nikon School at one time. They are long discontinued but show up on feaBay frequently.

Dave Hartman

[charlie]

The HR-2 is a collapsible rubber screw in hood made for 50/55mm lenses.
On the 35mm AIS 1.4 it vignettes when set to infinity focus at the wider apertures, mostly gone by f5.6.
At close focus I did not detect vignetting at any aperture. I was just looking at the LCD screen for these quick tests.

There is also the HR-4 which is made for the 35mm f2.5 and 50mm f1.8. Perhaps this is a little shorter and would not cause any vignetting.

[David H. Hartman]

Ted,

The HN-3 hood for the 35/1.4 and others is 71.5mm diameter at the front and 19.1mm deep. I don't see anything close in a HS-XX hood. The HS-12 for the 50/1.2 AIS is 75.6mm diameter and 33.5mm deep. You might use wet sandpaper starting with #40 or #60 and sand it down so it doesn't vignette. You'd finish up with #320 or #600 and take the sharp edges off and then black the front with black VHT motorcycle case paint. That paint stands up to use on negative carriers. That seems to be to be a lot of work. I personally love the HN-3 hood and use the Tupperware #G cap on it.

The HS-9 is 69.5mm diameter by 30mm deep. It would vignette as is. I wouldn't start with that one if sanding one down.

Dave Hartman

The HS-1 through HS-5 are the hoods I loath. I'm pretty sure they are the ones with the chrome buttons that you squeeze. They fall off easily.

[Frank Fremerey]

Dave H. .... I just love your posts. Always full of humour even and especially on dry subjects!

[Bent Hjarbo]

Dave H. .... I just love your posts. Always full of humour even and especially on dry subjects!

+1 me too😉

[TedBaker]

Thanks Didler and David for looking up those dimensions, gave me an idea to look a little harder and I found this.

http://www.oocities.org/rick_housh/camera/nikon/lenshoods.html

Anyway I got out a calculator and I get the following angles for the these hoods from the filter thread (atan(diameter-52mm/length))

hs-9 and Hs-11 30degrees
hs-12 35 degrees
hs-12 - 5mm ground off 40 degrees
hn-3 45 degrees
hn-3 with 4mm filter 40 degrees

I will get a hs-12 and put some film in the camera thanks and see how it works

Just the one hood to work on the 50mm and 35mm would be nice.

[TedBaker]

Or does anyone know which of the HK hoods will fit on 35mm AIS, and 50mm 1.4 AIS,

I know the HK-11 doesn't

[David H. Hartman]

The HK-8 for the 36-72/3.5E is a 52mm hood that has a 72mm front diameter and a 20.5mm depth. I'm not a great fan of the HK type hoods and I know a cockatoo that likes snapping off the fastening screw. She's the Button Master and I'm the Shirt Keeper.

HK-8: 52mm x 72mm x 20.5mm compared to [I'm now quite sure the HK-8 does not fit a 52mm filter or lens but rather slips over the zoom/focus ring.]
HN-3: 52mm x 71.5mm x 19.1mm. 

I use the Rick Housh chart. I did a save page as long ago.

[This hood may not fit on the 52mm attachment threads but rather on the zoom/focus ring. I don't know.]

Dave Hartman