When my Df dies, I will...

[MILLIREHM]

Limited offers on the second hand market
Buyers have to find where it is on stock. Currently there are no Df production runs as it is said that Sendai is working full capacity for producing 20000 Z7 a month, and they will have to produce the Z6 later in this lear as well.

[Akira]

Apparently, Df is more popular in Europe than in Japan?  There is enough stock of Df (black or silvver, kit with the special 50/1.8G or body only) here in Japan.   The body is sold for around 200,000 JPY and the kit, for around 230,000 JPY.

[Tiktok67]

I’m a recent Df convert, and didn’t really consider that model for quite awhile due to some of the negative reviews.  I happened upon a gently used one at the local Nikon dealer (for a great price) and once I handled it I bought it.

I started out 35 years ago with MF Nikons, so the Df and I clicked instantly. Also brought  all of my great MF Nikkors out of storage and love using them again!

[Birna Rørslett]

The Df story shows that one should experience a camera to make up one's own opinions and not trust negative reviews too much.

For me, and likely many other users, the Df has brought back enjoyment of photography.  Plus I now can put my many CPU-modified F-mount lenses to good use.

[Kenneth Rich]

Lots of talk, worthy talk about "when my Df dies" but almost nobody seems to consider simply getting it repaired.  Many years ago, when i was a lot younger, maybe more foolish, and had more money, I bought a Panasonic LC-1.  It eventually burned out something important- mother board or sensor, don't remember what, but when i took it in for repairs, the manager of the photography dept, was aghast I wanted it repaired, and said it would cost an arm and three legs.  I insisted, and had the work done.  I loved/still love that camera, and saw nothing like it on  the market until the Df came along. More accurately, until I learned that the Df had come along, been around  for quite some time.  I bought the Df because it was everything the LC-1 was and bags more. For me, when the Df dies, I will strive to find a repair house that can pull it apart and replace what has gone west.  Only then, if it cannot be fixed, will I replace it with another Df.  Yes, maybe I should buy another now and put it away. 

[Bjørn Rørslett]

I'm on my second Df now. Will there be a third? Maybe. Depends on how the Z6/Z7 cameras already ordered stack up in daily use. I expect the Z7 to effortlessly replace or augment what the D810 now accomplishes for stacking and other specialised purposes. As these cameras are run off the mains in the studio, battery consumption is moot, and I have no intention of using them in the field. The latter application is reserved for the Z6. However, the Z6, has to be seriously attractive in practice to tempt me away from a Df.

[richardHaw]

itching to buy a silver Df to pair with "Blackie" (my black Df)
selling for 202,000 JPY now and I may get it cheaper.

last time I talked to mr Goto he said that the Df2 project was scrapped but recent developments point to a Df2 in the coming years

1: the statement pasted above.
2: Goto-sensei said the same thing to me several months ago.
3: shops aggressively pushing Df sales. such as buy the Df now while it lasts and explicitly saying that people arent selling theirs.
4: a large price drop.

Now, heres what I want to see:

1: I would like one without a built-in motor but have a smaller outer radius for the throat so I can use my VERY old Nikkors from the time the F debuted.

2: I hope some of the suggestions I sent to mr Goto will be implemented such as a meter readout on the top like the Nikkormats that I still love to use. I gave him a simple schematic that's easy to implement via firmware.

3: smaller and of course cheaper! dont mind if it still uses the same sensor or the 24MP one.

4: interchangeable prisms are a no-go since i was told that its "mendoksai" or troublesome to implement and adjusting it for every camera is tedious. this was the experience with the F5 he said if I remember it correctly.

5: interchangeable screens! (K, coarse center matte, P).

6: NO grip! for DIY purposes.

7: ML-L3 support.

8: a flip screen like the D5300 so I can rotate the back and hide the screen.

this is my wish-list

now, I would like to see a true P mode like the one on my FA but thats probably asking too much and it will make it expensive

[richardHaw]

here's a cool idea. lets make a list of what we want and i will personally send it and see what happens

[ianwatson]

Give me a screen suitable for manual focus. I do not care for any split prisms nor the like. Just a decent screen. Interchangeable screens are a great idea.

A more accurate electronic rangefinder would be nice, if possible.

A better autofocus module, please.

I could live without a motor for AF/AF-D lenses.

No grip would be fine.

Keep the resolution down. 24 Mp at the most. 

No built-in flash!

No video. If you want video then buy a video camera.

[richardHaw]

No video. If you want video then buy a video camera.

or the Z cameras

[MILLIREHM]

Lots of talk, worthy talk about "when my Df dies" but almost nobody seems to consider simply getting it repaired.   

I understood "when it dies" different from getting a malfunction or some damages that can be repaired. If  a camera dies means is unrepairable to me

[MILLIREHM]

BTW:the things i'd like to have for a Df2

First: A front wheel with better ergonomics. This is making my fingers hurt (especially when the camera has no grip - i dont need one but a better wheel)

Second: A kit lens with an aperture ring

Third: better readout from non-CPU-lenses (maximum aperture), P and S- mode with AI-S lenses (Not that I use that too often, but to lately correct the deficits the F4 had against the FA in this aspect.

... (to be continued)

[Airy]

I understood "when it dies" different from getting a malfunction or some damages that can be repaired. If  a camera dies means is unrepairable to me

... I already got it repaired once ... (camera-side aperture lever no longer functioning). We'll see how long supplies and support will last.

[Airy]

BTW:the things i'd like to have for a Df2

First: A front wheel with better ergonomics. This is making my fingers hurt (especially when the camera has no grip - i dont need one but a better wheel)

Second: A kit lens with an aperture ring

Third: better readout from non-CPU-lenses (maximum aperture), P and S- mode with AI-S lenses (Not that I use that too often, but to lately correct the deficits the F4 had against the FA in this aspect.

... (to be continued)

First: agreed... and I'd immediately program it to exposure compensation (see "third").

Second: no (personal thought). I got enough legacy lenses. Unless they'd propose a remake of the Noct with a moulded front element, thus cutting the costs big time, and with nanocoating.

Third: I only use A and M... Third bis: when I dial in the FL and minimum aperture, I'd like to see them reflected in the EXIF data. Currently I'm obliged to input them in LR metadata.

Fourth: an exposure compensation (top left wheel) without locking. Mine has the tendency to "stick", and from day A to day B I need to press the unlock with one finger and rotate the wheel with two more fingers, over the whole range, just to get rid of the sticking. Very annoying.

Fifth: an eyepiece mount with a longer thread. The DK-17M is difficult to screw properly and would fall down every now and then.

Sixth: an interchangeable ground glass. I had that on Canon T90, why not here? narrower tolerances?

[Birna Rørslett]

There is no problem swapping the groundglass of the Df with another. I currently use a K3. Very nice behaviour with the medium fast lenses yet still allows pin-point focusing with my Nocts.

If the non-CPU lens menu is used, the actual lens data are all recorded in the EXIF. Ne need to re-enter. At least that is what my Df allows, but I rarely use the option as most of my manual lenses have their own CPU. An additional bonus is of course there is no need to use the front wheel, which I freely admit is made to fit Japanese [lady] fingers. Instead I set the aperture directly on the lens in the manner used in the old ages of film. Much more ergonomic and easier on the hands.