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New 19mm and 70-200
« on: October 18, 2016, 16:39:35 »
Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR and PC-E 19mm f/4E ED Lenses Price Leaked

http://cameratimes.org/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-fl-ed-vr-pc-e-19mm-f4e-ed-lenses-price-leaked/

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2016, 17:06:00 »
Both lenses have been rumoured for a while.

They apparently continue the current trend of even higher price on the designs that replace existing ones. Fro the 19 mm PC-E, there is no direct replacement, rather a range extension from the 24 PC-E. The latter is a specialist tool, thus the niche for the 19 probably is even more narrow. We'll see in due time what these new Nikkors can deliver.

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2016, 17:26:53 »
I am getting a bit tired of all these new "updated" shit. I have to work on my pension fund!!  ::)
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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 18:26:00 »
The big issue is... normally they are better than before... so...  ;D

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2016, 18:42:55 »
I am surprised at the rumored price for the 19mm PC-E. That is close to double the price of the others lenses in the PC-E range, and also close to double the price of the Canon 17mm titl-shift.

Not sure how it can be justified.

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2016, 19:32:28 »
The big issue is... normally they are better than before... so...  ;D
And dont you just HATE that!

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2016, 19:59:33 »
If these are suggested prices in Japan, it may be that the US price will be lower. Quite often after a lens has been on the market for a while, prices are substantially lower than the initial price, and there can be rebates/cashbacks after a few years.

Also sometimes these rumored prices are simply incorrect.

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2016, 20:49:02 »
And they will supposedly be announced tonight...

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2016, 21:08:54 »
The big issue is... normally they are better than before... so...  ;D

I wish I could buy the less better one. I took my AF 80-200/2.8D ED (new) out and was promptly reminded how it sucks close in at 200mm. At least I can use it as a bludgeon if someone assaults me. 

Anyway I want the more better one but I can't even afford the less better one.

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2016, 21:12:03 »

Please send FREE money :)
would monopoly money do...
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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2016, 21:56:18 »
19mm PC-E is a strange focal length for Nikon. Normally they are quite conservative with regard to focal lengths (105mm not 100mm, 24mm not 25mm, 18mm not 17mm etc), but this is the first 19mm lens they have made. I would have expected 18mm instead, I'm sure it will be a good lens regardless :)

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2016, 22:13:48 »
19mm PC-E is a strange focal length for Nikon. Normally they are quite conservative with regard to focal lengths (105mm not 100mm, 24mm not 25mm, 18mm not 17mm etc), but this is the first 19mm lens they have made. I would have expected 18mm instead, I'm sure it will be a good lens regardless :)

If lenscore.org is to be believed, Nikon PC-E lenses outperform Canon TSs for comparable focal lengths. The Schneider-Kreuznachts outperforms both brands, but they are not at all in the same price range either.

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2016, 22:16:20 »
Nikon have had 100 as well as 105 mm lenses, same with 24 and 25 mm (25-50/4).

The usual focal length tolerance is 5% thus a 19 mm could in theory be near 18 or approx. 20 mm. However, this tolerance is the optical design itself, not the variation on the production units.

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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
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Re: New 19mm and 70-200
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2016, 23:32:40 »
If lenscore.org is to be believed, Nikon PC-E lenses outperform Canon TSs for comparable focal lengths. The Schneider-Kreuznachts outperforms both brands, but they are not at all in the same price range either.

There are some serious flaws in the 24 PC-E that the Canon 24 TS-E II does not have. The 24mm Nikkor, when used to photograph a tall building in vertical orientation and some shift applied, displays strong field curvature which means it is quite difficult to get uniform sharpness across the facade of the building. It requires very careful focusing at a specific height using live view, stopping down and and preferably avoiding too much shift. With the Canon lens it is easy to handle this situation and there is greater freedom of movements as well. I find the 24 PC-E to work bettr for near to far landscapes with tilt. I think the Canon is easily the superior lens and it is unlikely that an architectural photographer would find the Nikkor satisfactory if they photograph large exteriors. I think Nikon should fix the 24 rather than introduce a new, wider lens. The 14-24 Nikkor by contrast is a superb lens for architectural photography.

I love to use the 24 PC-E for semi close up landscapes, but shifted shots of distant subjects quickly show the imperfections of the lens. Perhaps the 19mm can do its job. 17mm ts-e is really extreme.