AF-S Nikkor 105/1.4E to be announced

[Akira]

Apparently Nikon had another possibility of design for 105/1.4 using fluorite elements:

http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2016-08-05

Sorry the texts are all in Japanese.  FWIW, the entries of this blogger (apparently of an optics/camera designer) are often cited in Nikonrumors website.

[Akira]

scheduled to test this lens next week.

Should already be appearing at Nikon showrooms in Ginza and Shinjuku?

[richardHaw]

Should already be appearing at Nikon showrooms in Ginza and Shinjuku?

latter half of this week I was told

[Almass]

The 105ED does not play well with small camera bodies and needs a D4s/D5 for proper balance.

There is no issue about acquiring focus and there is a "color" price to pay for the sharpness WO. What is of concern is the Cyan creeping out. No more heavy Reds but a conflict with Magenta as it seems the Cyan is taking over the curve.
This might be an issue with auto correction in processing unless C1P and LR/PS correct for the same. Lens profiling is gonna be needed.

The silver lining is that this is excellent for Split Toning and a time saver for skin retouching.

Compared with the 135D, the differential is the propensity to achieve critical focus on the fly......The 105 wins
The Bokeh and transition from sharp to OOF.....the 135 wins.....as well as for the color

Dunno what the landscape/flower/bugs photographers will make out of it as my reference is Beauty editorial images .

I am getting it anyway as our shooting season starts mid Septembre.


Disclaimer. I did not test the lens and only found the answers at the bottom of my coffee cup.

[Andy]

According to my dealer, the lens will arrive on Thu/Fri this week.
rgds, Andy

[Roland Vink]

According to the Nikonrumors site, the 105DC is listed as discontinued at Amazon...

[Akira]

According to the Nikonrumors site, the 105DC is listed as discontinued at Amazon...

That would be inevitable.  So, the 135/1.4E ED is just below the horizon, or at least 135/1.8?   

[Roland Vink]

Not 135/1.4 I think - that would be as fat and expensive as a 200/2. Nikon did patent a 135/1.8 design some time ago. To get an idea of the size of such a lens, it would have a 75mm entrance pupil - identical to the 105/1.4 - I think we can see 82mm filter size becoming more common.

[Akira]

Yeah, I would also think that 135/1.8 is more likely.

The patent for a 115/1.4 VC is applied for by Tamron.  Its theoretical entrance pupil is 82mm which would require at least an 86mm filter.

http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2016-08-24

The entrance pupil of a 135/1.4 is 96mm and the smallest standard filter size for the lens is a 105mm one!

That said, I would still a little doubt if Nikon would be content with a 135/1.8 which was preceded by Pentax and Sony/Zeiss.

[Tristin]

115/1.4 VC would certainly be fun.  I wish VR had been implemented in the 105/1.4.

[Almass]

Finally the pics started flooding in.....

........and IT IS SHARP.........unfortunately including the Bokeh!......and the Cyan is too high (probably this is the sharpness compromise to reduce Red and up Green??).....we shall see as it has basically less warmth than the usual Nikkor Primes.

It really sits betwee the 85G's and the 200G......A Sport lens, it is not as the AF seems to be rather Zimmery.


https://taotzuchang.wordpress.com/2016/08/24/nikon105/

http://www.dslr-forum.de/showthread.php?t=1718219&page=36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUHbSVaUO9o

[Erik Lund]

Quote from Haruo Sato - Nikon;

...Nikon has recently released the new AF-S NIKKOR 105mm f/1.4E ED, a 105mm lens that inherits the concept and ideas behind the traditional AI Nikkor 105mm f/1.8S while supporting the latest technical advances. This lens was developed with the same design concept as the AF-S NIKKOR 58mm f/1.4G in mind. That is, “improved three-dimensional rendering characteristics”. While images captured with the AF-S NIKKOR 105mm f/1.4E ED are just a little sharper than those captured with the 58mm f/1.4G, overall image characteristics are the same...

[David H. Hartman]

The reviewer Taylor Jackson in the YT video The First Nikon 105mm F1.4 Review (With Sample RAWs!) said something to the effect that the photos from the 105/1.4 and 85/1.4 were basically identical. I'm having a hard time with that. If the subject is the same size in the frame then the perspective has to be different as one will be standing farther away with the 105mm than with the 85mm. I never felt that an 85mm replaces a 105mm lens and vice versa. I prefer the 105mm over 85mm by a modest margin. Many attributes of the photos may be similar but not identical. A bit sloppy I think.

The video was interesting as one can see what a honker AF-S 105/1.4E ED is. It makes my AF-S 105/2.8G ED Micro look slim which it is not. It also make the 105/1.8 AIS look slim. I wonder if I got a bad sample when I special ordered the 105/1.8 AIS. I was not impressed with the 105/1.8 AIS.

It's just a fact that today's prime Nikkors are BIG compared to there manual focus counterparts. To me this is a major drawback for the AF lenses.

Dave

[simsurace]

The reviewer Taylor Jackson in the YT video The First Nikon 105mm F1.4 Review (With Sample RAWs!) said something to the effect that the photos from the 105/1.4 and 85/1.4 were basically identical.

LOL, I was just going to post that he basically says "everything looks the same". So IMHO it's not worth paying much attention to it.

[Tristin]

David, thanks for the tip-off.  While I wouldn't call that a review, the raws are definitely handy and I will be taking a look at them.

Erik, I found that quote perplexing in the read.  I have yet to try the 58/1.4, but from everything I have seen and heard it was designed quite differently from the 105/1.8.  It would seem to me that if it followed the design concept of the 58/1.4 I would expect it to lack some of the corrections that makes the 105/1.8 unique from the 105s.  In that case, it would only be carrying on the focal length and faster aperature.  Once it gets into the hands of some NG members we will see for ourselves.  One of my favorite things about NG, experiencing lenses vicariously through you guys! :-)