Author Topic: Coming Head-On  (Read 5247 times)

golunvolo

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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2016, 01:41:35 »
Nothing new to add but I do agree with everything above. Great shot from the colors of the beak to the contrast with the background, the "not usual" point of view, the impressive wing span an the great work in postproduction...it all works for an striking image.

  Oh, I love the droplets :)

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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2016, 02:17:12 »
Thank you so much David and Golunvolo for your kind comments.

Just another which may be also a little unusual in its perspective. Please excuse any halos as the PP was not the best on this - apologies.


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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2016, 03:46:41 »
Mongo, I think Keith means he's never seen a frontal pelican shot before as most posted images are broad side.

So its a compliment for the uniqueness of the image, and I agree  ;D
Yes, sorry...by "angle", I meant "camera angle".
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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2016, 05:19:12 »
Not a worry Keith. Mongo is always pleased to to hear from you and get your  views.

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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2016, 08:56:02 »
I don't mind the halos at all (as long as they are not caused by radioactivity). Yet another great image, Mongo. It looks like a jumbo jet is landing.
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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2016, 10:57:53 »
I don't mind the halos at all (as long as they are not caused by radioactivity). Yet another great image, Mongo. It looks like a jumbo jet is landing.

thanks Jakov. No, its not radioactivity - that would be wasted on photography. Mongo saves that for cooking these guys for dinner. Funny you should mention Jumbo jet. Others said the same thing when they saw this image.

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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2016, 02:06:25 »
Fantastic shot!  Well executed in every possible way.
Personally, I have no (i.e., zero) problem with this type of reconstruction or fix.
Well done.
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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2016, 03:22:13 »
Fantastic shot!  Well executed in every possible way.
Personally, I have no (i.e., zero) problem with this type of reconstruction or fix.
Well done.

many thanks Fredrick for looking in and for your appraisal and views about reconstruction. It is good to get members'  feedback as to how  they feel about this subject.
 

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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2016, 19:03:08 »
Mongo has taken some beautiful images here.

I think birds in general (except owls and raptors) are usually taken in profile because that's how they tend to look at you?

I hope Mongo doesn't mind me contributing this image, it's just that I am not sure if it's a head-on or a tail-on?


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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2016, 21:44:45 »
Mongo has taken some beautiful images here.

I think birds in general (except owls and raptors) are usually taken in profile because that's how they tend to look at you?

I hope Mongo doesn't mind me contributing this image, it's just that I am not sure if it's a head-on or a tail-on?

Now that is "head on" backside first !! Mongo loves it Peter - glad you posted it. Don't know what this creature was thinking or doing when you shot this. For a second or two, Mongo wondered if this was an example of "reconstruction" that Mongo also talked about in this thread (LOL) and TFS this.

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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2016, 01:10:10 »
Sharp as a tack.

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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2016, 06:15:59 »
Never mind the tricks, your efforts were rewarded. While the pelican springs, or rather flies, into the eyes, I also particularly like the background.
Airy Magnien

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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2016, 17:43:34 »
Thanks Mongo.

This Egyptian goose was "standing up" after preening it's belly.

And it is not reconstructed, even if only because I don't know how to.

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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2016, 23:03:39 »
Wonderful shot!

How did you enlarge the background to the right? The blur of the rightmost edge (I suppose that's what you had to add in order to paint the wingtip) looks distinct from the rest of the image (bigger radius and different directionality, as if it came from a shot with bigger aperture). This is only a small detail, but maybe it is something hat can be improved?
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Re: Coming Head-On
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2016, 23:51:33 »
thanks Ron, Airy and Peter.

Wonderful shot!

How did you enlarge the background to the right? The blur of the rightmost edge (I suppose that's what you had to add in order to paint the wingtip) looks distinct from the rest of the image (bigger radius and different directionality, as if it came from a shot with bigger aperture). This is only a small detail, but maybe it is something hat can be improved?

Thank you Simone for your comments. It is incredibly valuable to get your sort of feedback. Often, Mongo cannot see the details you pointed out. Now that you have, he has been able to go back and take a 200% look the original saved Tiff file. Thanks to you, he can now see the details you were explaining.

Now, to try and answer your queries:-

yes, the background on the right hand side had to be enlarged  before the wingtip could be reconstructed by superimposing onto the background. Mongo can now see that the background (which was sourced from other sections of the image) does not have the same grain and radius under some magnification. This should not have happened. The sourcing of the background should only be done after virtually all the the post pressing (except sharpening ) has been done and always at the same image/pixel size. It is probable, in this case, that Mongo may have mistakenly sourced the background from the original file instead of the worked on image. This would explain this error. As far as the wing tips go, it was just a copy, invert, rotate, rescale and past from the whole wing to the truncated wing. Then, any light, contrast etc adjustments to that added wing  tip to suit/match its new location (if required). This whole process can be much improved to be almost undetectable but it is clear that in this case, Mongo  made some mistakes.

Mongo appreciates all your helpful comments. It helps improvement greatly when our attention is drawn to details such as these which we may not have otherwise become aware of.