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There's a river in there somewhere . . .
« on: January 29, 2016, 15:11:23 »
Strong weather is back with us - flooding almost the highest I have seen here, and storm-force winds - our local automatic weather station recorded a gust of 171kph (107mph) at 9am today. When walking our dog, Sally, when the gusts came it was difficult to stay on my feet, and as we were almost home she was struck by a flying branch - not really hurt, but now very nervous and afraid, and I think she blames me, unfortunately.

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Re: There's a river in there somewhere . . .
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2016, 15:17:07 »
Hope that Sally is all right and won't curse the fact that you take some picures nevertheless!

I'd rather wonder about the condition of the spot on which you were standing when you took the iamge.
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Re: There's a river in there somewhere . . .
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2016, 15:55:17 »
these clouds seem to have some water reserve for us in may :-)
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Re: There's a river in there somewhere . . .
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2016, 17:03:11 »
Wow, please let this pass so we can get some dry land for our workshop ;)

Stay safe!
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Re: There's a river in there somewhere . . .
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2016, 18:43:47 »
Thank you for your comments, Akira, Thomas and Erik.

Akira - unfortunately I am not yet able to walk on water, but I'm waiting for the day to arrive. I was standing on a former railway bridge which crosses the much-swollen River Lochay. The water-level is about 2m above average, and 3m above a typical (summer) low point.

In Scotland, statistically, May/June and September are the driest months, and the months with the most "good" weather. But statistics relate to the past, and atmospheric warming is happening now . . . . this is why we are going to start each day in May witha 30-minute Quechua Indian rain-dance - performed backwards, of course, since we want it NOT to rain, and the dance is normally used to BRING rain.   ::) ::)

I sometimes like to do a little mental arithmetic, and this was this morning's exercise - in normal times, this river is about 60m wide, with an average depth of 2m, and it flows at about 1.5m/sec. Since 1 cubic metre weighs one metric ton, the weight of water flowing down that river to the sea is -

60 x 2 x 1.5 (tons per second) x 60 (t/min) x 60 (t/hour) x 24 (t/day) x 365 (tons per year) = nearly 500 million metric tons. Ain't that a surprise? Even if my initial assumptions are wrong by a factor of three, that still means that nearly 200 million tons of water flow down that river every year.


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Re: There's a river in there somewhere . . .
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2016, 20:32:29 »
And thats just one small river David!

How many tons a day at the moment then?
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2016, 20:51:36 »
And thats just one small river David!

How many tons a day at the moment then?

Exactly!

3 times the width, 3 times the depth and at least 3 times the flow-rate - say 30 times the normal volume. That is equivalent to an annualised tonnage close to 1.8 billion tons.

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2016, 21:36:50 »
Fortunately it won't run at that rate all year!  It just puts it into perspective though.

No doubt at some times in the Earths distant past that may have been normal though, I still find it hard to accept that water, frost and ice sculpted the remains of the volcanos to what we have today.
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Re: There's a river in there somewhere . . .
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2016, 23:17:23 »
I hope the water level doesn't increase more.

Great nature shot, the light on the trees and the shimmering reflections on the water.
Gives a very lifely stream.
I like the little free room left of the middle tree,- it allows the spectators eye wander to to background.
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2016, 05:59:22 »
Dave, I'm relieved to know that you seem to have come home "dry" this time.  :D

The amount of the running water is simply overwhelming...
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Re: There's a river in there somewhere . . .
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2016, 11:17:29 »
Dave, I'm relieved to know that you seem to have come home "dry" this time.  :D
The amount of the running water is simply overwhelming...

Just last week I fell again, full-length into near-freezing water - luckily not very deep. I was crossing a stream, much bigger than normal, put my foot on a large stone, the stone rolled . . . I understood immediately how people die in minutes if immersed in really cold water - for example, the sea in winter. My car was only a couple of minutes' walk from where I fell but by the time I got to it, it was becoming difficult to walk and I could literally feel my body shutting down. Scary.

My cameras were ok though!

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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2016, 09:41:51 »
Wow, so happy you got out of there again!
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2016, 10:49:35 »
Dave, my sympathies. Cold water is unpleasant. But at least you didn't have to crash through the ice first :)

Good for you the cameras survived.

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2016, 11:37:27 »
Good to hear everything ended up well, David!
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2016, 12:40:54 »
Just last week I fell again, full-length into near-freezing water - luckily not very deep. I was crossing a stream, much bigger than normal, put my foot on a large stone, the stone rolled . . . I understood immediately how people die in minutes if immersed in really cold water - for example, the sea in winter. My car was only a couple of minutes' walk from where I fell but by the time I got to it, it was becoming difficult to walk and I could literally feel my body shutting down. Scary.

My cameras were ok though!

Oh, Dave, I'm glad your CAR was ok enough to warm you up again...
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