GAS ... SONY A7RII

[tommiejeep]

OK, the Commlite AF adapter is being advertised for sale :

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a312a.7728559.2014082902.1.N2llr2&id=524446063248&fromSite=main&price=372&sourceType=item&sourceType=item&ut_sk=1.VJB6cUjhgfQDABVxKNAN0FVO_12278902_1448092384596.Copy.1&un=ac0b9244d22f50de143b731291a8a715&share_crt_v=1&cpp=1&short_name=h.e1Wwn&sm=254469&app=chrome&_lang=zh_CN:TB-GBK&thwarea=hw&toSite=main

Maybe someone will review it now that it is going into production.  I had not planned on using many G Nikons on the a7II but would be interesting to see how they work since Sony is missing some.   I'm also wondering if there will be any communication using D lenses .

Edit: What Commlite has to say 
http://www.commlite.com/en/product_show.php?id=205&title_lm=Lens+Accessories&img_sl_lm1=upimg%2F2015112012350794.jpg&title=CM-ENF-E%281%29

Cheers,
Tom

[Erik Lund]

That is really good news, could not see at how fast frame rate it can deliver the aperture stop down at or is this not relevant with the A7 series ...?

[Jan Anne]

Cool, I think the time has come to chip my Nikkor 50/1.2

As mentioned I already use the Commlite Canon EF adapter for the Voigtlander 125/2.5 APO Lanthar and will probably buy this one as well for the Samyang 14/2.8 AE and 50/1.2.

[JJChan]

Tom
Awesome photos with the 75 Heliar on the Fotozones site. Sensational shots and processing!

JJ

[Frank Fremerey]

My word concerning my fading interest in the alpha 7RII comes after reading through this:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii/16

I feel Sony stays on a very good path towards perfection. Kai-Zen.

Because Ergonomics has always been the final decisive factor for me when buying a camera and I handled the camera at my local dealer who claims to already have sold dozends of these, I must say. Not yet, not for me.

I like to see a much better user interface (better dials & knobs, less menu use) and a possibility to switch off  features I do not want or need.

The price? I do not think this camera offers many practical advances for my shooting, privately or professionally, so I will not spent 3400 Euros plus lenses.

[Jan Anne]

The buttons of the a7 series are highly customisable, even more so than the Nikons I used to own.

The out of the box configuration made little sense to me as well but after some testing I found a setup that works for me, this is not exclusive to the Sony btw as I used to do exactly the same with my Nikon cameras.

With the current setup no setting can be changed accidentally, things like ISO and AF point selection can only be changed by clicking a button first and then turning a dial. On the old forum I used make a few "how to setup your camera" topics, maybe its time to do one for the a7 series

[Frank Fremerey]

JanA.. super idea. Setup guides!

[Alex Cejka]

" "how to setup your camera" topics "

Excellent idea. I have always looked for these for my cameras and used some as a starting point.

[Jan Anne]

See this topic for the Setup Guide for the a7 series:
http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/topic,2118.0.html

[tommiejeep]

Thanks J.A., I'm still playing with getting the a7II set up the way I like it.

This is the first user report I have seen on the new Commlite AF Nikon adapter.  Have you seen others?  I had my fingers crossed that it would do more with D lenses but was not surprised .

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57029682
Cheers,
Tom

[Jan Anne]

Nope, but on that link the reported performance is seriously disappointing, thanks for that link.

Still haven't seen confirmation that the adapter can be updated by USB or bluetooth, without a $300 adapter is not gonna happen.

[Frank Fremerey]

My opinion after a long investigation into the CAM is that the people most happy with it seem to be those using high end MF-glass with it.

The AF performance seems to be rather bad still even with native glass.

I keep watching the market, possibly the announced D850 will feature the same chip as the A7R2.

What I really want is a system I can completely operate without taking my glasses on and off

[tommiejeep]

J.A. , I'm not sure the guy on Dpr received what was meant to be the first shipments of the Commlite.  Orig. supposed to be shipped 27 Dec (first Pre-orders) and then delayed until mid-Jan.
He is in Hong Kong and bought directly from the Chinese point of sale.  The FW up-dates are a mystery... maybe they'll try to gouge another$100 for a Dock  .  I'll wait and see.  I'm getting very happy with MF but would appreciated the lens communicating with the body 


Frank, I do not use my glasses with the EM1 or the Sony a7II.  My wife gave up on her Nikons and is totally happy with the EM1.  She can borrow the a7II for some gigs.  The focus on the EM1 is first rate and super fast.  Sony is close.   MF is much easier with all of the MF aids.  Not trying to talk you out of Nikon.  Nikons are still my primary system and I shoot action.  I do hate fine tuning.
Tom

[Frank Fremerey]

Frank, I do not use my glasses with the EM1 or the Sony a7II.  My wife gave up on her Nikons and is totally happy with the EM1.  She can borrow the a7II for some gigs.  The focus on the EM1 is first rate and super fast.  Sony is close.   MF is much easier with all of the MF aids.  Not trying to talk you out of Nikon.  Nikons are still my primary system and I shoot action.  I do hate fine tuning. Tom

You observe that Sony is on par with Olympus AF-wise?

Whenever I use the EM1 of a friend I get the impression that she outcompetes any Nikon I own, esp. with fast primes where both the D3 and the D600 are slow compared to Pro-Zoom-AF.

[tommiejeep]

Frank, sorry, I cut short my last since I had to take my son to his Math Tuition  . 

Short answer no, not on the same level as the EM1.  A noticeable difference in speed and positive acquisition.  The only slow Olympus lens I use is the 9-18 f4-5.6.  Everything else is f2.8 or faster.  Of course I am only using the a7II (just was not going to pay the money for the a7RII) . Also, Olympus IBIS is noticeably better than Sony's .   ISO -wise I do not find the a7II much better at 3200-6400 than the D700 but have not tested that out.  Just from normal shooting.  If I could only have one between the D750 and a7II the a7II would go.

The biggest limitation are with the lenses, which is why many are using 3rd party.  Canon shooters have it pretty easy since the electronic adapters work well. I have the 55 1.8, as recommended by a NG Supporter, the Two Batis, Loxia 50 f2 and the 90 2.8 Macro.  Soon to have the 35 2.8 from J.A. .  Not overly happy with the 90 f2.8. Should have bought a very good older macro.  Not one zoom that I am interested in at the prices.  Bummer, and I sold my Nikon 35-70 2.8 .  If Sony doesn't deliver on their promises by the next big show (Feb.) I think they should get out of the lens business and go into another,or more, Zeiss type agreements and concentrate on Sensors and cameras.  I was hoping that the Commlite adapter would be good (not given up yet and there is another one being developed) . So I had planned to use a few of my Nikon afs (G) zooms.

The Sony is fun and I've purchased several MF lenses that my wife will bring back next month and a M-to m43 adapter  .
Cheers,
Tom