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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2024, 20:46:09 »
So no sensor shield as there's still a mechanical shutter unlike Z8/Z9. The price in Switzerland is CHF 3'000 compared to 3'400 for a Z8 (incl. cash back). To me the Z8 is the way to go.
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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2024, 20:58:21 »
So no sensor shield as there's still a mechanical shutter unlike Z8/Z9. The price in Switzerland is CHF 3'000 compared to 3'400 for a Z8 (incl. cash back). To me the Z8 is the way to go.

Would there be any reason why a mechanical shutter cannot act as a sensor shield, provided it is controlled to stay shut when the camera is turned off?
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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2024, 21:25:41 »
In Riccis video there's a shot of the Z6lll without a lens and the sensor shield is in place...
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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2024, 21:25:46 »
Would there be any reason why a mechanical shutter cannot act as a sensor shield, provided it is controlled to stay shut when the camera is turned off?

A real shutter is easy to damage by touching it.

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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2024, 23:38:15 »
The Z6III surely appears do be a camera that makes significant steps further compared to her precedessors, but I find it disappointing that it still has got the PSAM wheel (which is a waste of space imh) and the U1,U2,U3 presettings that proved to be a nightmare on the Z6 and probably still no custom settings bank (or recall shooting options) in the menu. At least the button to switch between Single and continuous shooting has moved to a better place.  Overall I would prefer the Z8 if I feel the need to add a capable but more compact and lightweight body to my Z9.
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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2024, 08:21:20 »
I find the U1-3 settings actually quite useful - I detest having to search through menus to change simple things, and having a knob to turn makes my life a lot easier.

For the sort of photography I do I have two basic setups and being able to flip flop backwards and forwards between them is very much easier without looking through menus.

Just my take on this.

As to the rest, I personally cannot understand why Nikon insist on maintaining a mechanical shutter - the electronics in the Z8/9 have proved their worth (IMHO) surely just a marketing ploy to maintain a distance between amateur and pro? And on the plus side, it's more reliable...

Someone here mentionned not understanding the 'hot swap' in the battery grip - it's very simple - the battery carriage allows for the battery closest to the 'door' to be removed WITHOUT removing the whole carriage from the grip. In this way the camera is still running on the second battery while the first is changed. It works well - but is inordinately expensive as grips go...

Whilst the mounting plate varies to match the camera body, the battery chariot is identical in grips for the Z6ll and Z8

UPDATE - according to someone here (in France) who has actually tested the camera it DOES NOT have the sensor protection (sadly) of the Z8/9
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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2024, 09:21:06 »
Z6 III Looks like a very nice small sister to the Z8 and Z9, and with even brighter viewfinder I'm sure many people will find it very attractive.

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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2024, 09:55:34 »
The price here in Japan is eye watering.

Nikon prices in $, but the yen is now toilet paper.

The local prices for z6, z6ii, z7, zf, z9, z8, and z6iii are madness. Purely based on the strength of the yen when the camera was released.

We need a lifeboat here in Japan :-(
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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2024, 10:42:32 »
The Z8/Z9 sensor is read in 3.7 ms while the Z6 III has been estimated around 15 ms (it has not been measured but Nikon said it would be 3.5x faster than the Z6 II.

Some people still have problems with flickering lights causing banding with the Z8/9 and the Z6 III with its somewhat slower read time would make these worse when operating using the purely electronic shutter. I have not personally had banding issues with the Z8 but it really is a question of the lighting you have to work with. With a mechanical shutter you get softer boundaries between the bands so they are less noticable. The Z6 III needs the mechanical shutter to avoid banding problems in artificial light and tilted verticals when panning a fast moving subject etc. Mechanical shutter is also needed with flash if you want to use a faster speed than 1/60s. The sync speed is 1/200s for the mechanical and 1/60s for the electronic shutter in the Z6 III.

Although my Z8 works with my Nikon flashes and Elinchroms also at fast shutter speeds, there are user reports with problems using other flashes that may be due to timing of the pulse series vs. read time of the sensor or something like that. Be that as it may, electronic shutter can have issues with flash compatibility. Again I have not run into these myself (I don't go for the cheapest flash brands) but these have been reported online.

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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2024, 11:35:09 »
The Z8/Z9 sensor is read in 3.7 ms while the Z6 III has been estimated around 15 ms (it has not been measured but Nikon said it would be 3.5x faster than the Z6 II.

Apparently for Z6 III it was measured at 9.47ms for 6K N-Raw video, and can get shorter in crop mode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDm9CbRxyg0&t=501s , still a lot slower than Z9/Z8.
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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2024, 11:52:52 »
Apparently for Z6 III it was measured at 9.47ms for 6K N-Raw video, and can get shorter in crop mode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDm9CbRxyg0&t=501s , still a lot slower than Z9/Z8.

In that case it is faster than the Z9/Z8's 14.5 ms for 8K RAW video (as reported by cined.com):

https://www.cined.com/nikon-z-9-n-raw-lab-test-fw-3-00-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-latitude/

The Z8/Z9 have very fast sensor read time for stills (3.7 ms) but it is not as fast for video; I believe the reason for this is to manage heat production in long clips, if the sensor was read faster it might consume more electricity and produce more heat.  Stills are expected to be made individually or in short(ish) bursts while video might be recorded for even 1 hour or more in some cases.

So it would seem from this perspective that the Z6 III sensor is more optimized for video than stills, if this is confirmed.

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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2024, 13:40:39 »
The price here in Japan is eye watering.

Nikon prices in $, but the yen is now toilet paper.

The local prices for z6, z6ii, z7, zf, z9, z8, and z6iii are madness. Purely based on the strength of the yen when the camera was released.

We need a lifeboat here in Japan :-(

come to china then, everything now is in good price 8)

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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2024, 14:36:04 »
About $A4,500 here in Melbourne!  :o

(Oh wait - there is more - an extra battery and an $11 (yes an eleven dollar) discount!!!)

I guess not before the boxing day sales for me.  ;)


The price here in Japan is eye watering.

Nikon prices in $, but the yen is now toilet paper.

The local prices for z6, z6ii, z7, zf, z9, z8, and z6iii are madness. Purely based on the strength of the yen when the camera was released.

We need a lifeboat here in Japan :-(
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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2024, 20:36:32 »

New version of NX studio released supporting the Z6 III:
https://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/sw/255.html
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Re: Nikon Z6 III
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2024, 02:59:09 »
New version of NX studio released supporting the Z6 III:
https://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/sw/255.html

  I had to stop using NX because it was crashing all the time and it looks like this update has fixed that for me. Thanks Nikon!