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Birna Rørslett

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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #90 on: January 16, 2025, 12:22:28 »
At present, 93 paying supporters. There are approx. 2500 registered members and the site has up to 5000 visits per day.

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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #91 on: January 16, 2025, 12:27:18 »
Do you know where they are coming from? Search, direct access?
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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #92 on: January 16, 2025, 12:35:48 »
At present, 93 paying supporters. There are approx. 2500 registered members and the site has up to 5000 visits per day.

This is a little bit unbalanced

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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #93 on: January 16, 2025, 13:52:37 »
I would be happy to pay €30 pa.
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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #94 on: January 16, 2025, 14:17:54 »
I would be happy to pay €30 pa.

If it continues like this the next step could be 40€, and 50€ etc.

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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #95 on: January 16, 2025, 14:25:53 »
Yes we could expect this increase by 10€,,, for every 10 year - Quite reasonable IMHO.

Please not I'm part og the NikonGear Crew  8)
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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #96 on: January 16, 2025, 16:54:10 »
Yes we could expect this increase by 10€,,, for every 10 year - Quite reasonable IMHO.
That means fewer and fewer supporting members and more fee? Vice versa could be the other option.

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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #97 on: January 16, 2025, 18:13:48 »
I would be happy to pay €30 pa.
me too
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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #98 on: January 16, 2025, 18:14:22 »
If it continues like this the next step could be 40€, and 50€ etc.
We did not raise sice we started the thing
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Birna Rørslett

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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #99 on: January 16, 2025, 20:50:06 »
That means fewer and fewer supporting members and more fee? Vice versa could be the other option.

My thoughts exactly. We cannot "save" NG by raising the annual subscription fee. What is needed should be more subscribers and more active participation from any member group, be they supporters or not.

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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #100 on: January 17, 2025, 11:40:03 »
My thoughts exactly. We cannot "save" NG by raising the annual subscription fee. What is needed should be more subscribers and more active participation from any member group, be they supporters or not.

I don't think that raising the membership fee would reduce the number of supporters, but unfortunately nobody can know that in advance.
On the other hand, I think the fact that NG needs paying supporters to survive isn't communicated enough. Why is there no notice in a prominent place on the homepage saying that NG needs paying supporters for its continued existence?
I can imagine that many of the NG members don't even know that it is the contributions that make NG possible. Since membership status is free, I also suspect that many of the more than 2000 members are not active at all.
Is it actually possible to voluntarily pay a higher contribution than 20 euros? Then every supporter could answer the question about the need for higher contributions for themselves.
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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #101 on: January 17, 2025, 12:38:31 »
My thoughts exactly. We cannot "save" NG by raising the annual subscription fee. What is needed should be more subscribers and more active participation from any member group, be they supporters or not.

I see it the same way.
 But this is a discussion among supporters, it seems so that the other members do not worry about the future of the ngf.


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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #102 on: January 17, 2025, 13:02:31 »
My thoughts exactly. We cannot "save" NG by raising the annual subscription fee. What is needed should be more subscribers and more active participation from any member group, be they supporters or not.

I admire that attitude very much Birna! And i agree with what really is the culprit/needs to happen.

However, NG needs to survive first, i'd say. If that means a (perhaps temporary) increase of the member fee, i'm all for it.
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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #103 on: January 17, 2025, 13:19:06 »
Everybody can make a donation at any time without increasing the fee.
But money is not the solution for more interested photographers.

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Re: Response to the Future of NikonGear.net/.com/.org
« Reply #104 on: January 17, 2025, 13:37:32 »
Yes, I approve of what it takes for NikonGear.net to survive. Perhaps this is not the place or time, yet why is this happening, this diminishing of photography sites and forums.

Dpreview is on life support, as is Fotozones, and many others. I can go to a good number of sites and the posts that were there months ago have hardly been succeeded. Obviously, this is indicative of something beyond just our problem here.

Is it the triumph of the mobile phone camera finally taking hold? Is it the plethora of new lenses and whatever that folks can’t or don’t want to keep up with? Are many of us forum types just growing old?

I had a similar experience. I photographed five music festivals this past summer, quite thoroughly (thousands of photos), and for two of them it was their last festival. They were shutting down after some 30 or so years, each.

I was talking to another old-timer like myself, in my case going back to the mid-1960s for such events. And we were talking about why folks are not coming out for these festivals any longer. I mean, what’s not to like, being outdoors, sitting on a blanket, watching some class acts performing music?

And I pointed out that my kids like festivals, when my friend pointed out, “Maybe so, but our kid’s kids do not.” The idea of going out in the cold mornings and hot days, sitting on the grass or ground on a blanket, with the black flies, etc. and listening to music does not appeal as much to our grandchildren as it did with us. They apparently have other fish to fry, so to speak.

And so, we might want to examine what is happening that photography forums are declining. Any suggestions?


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