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Images => Themes, Portfolio Series, PaW, or PaM => Topic started by: HCS on August 13, 2024, 11:13:19
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Panos. This is an attempt to bring together panoramas not obtained via image stitching (those can be seen and posted in https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=1597.0 (https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=1597.0). They may be shot on dedicated panorama cameras or cropped from a single photo (or in other ways if you know any).
To start this one off, an attempt of mine. Shot in Italy, Lake Maggiore, view on the Superior Island (in the middle, Isla Superiore). Shot on 6x17 film (Porta 400), (very) early morning. We had visited the islands the day before, so i "had to" return the next morning. I was greeted by a lonely fisherman and some glorious, soft morning glow. Feel free to add your comments and/or panos.
[changed title and theme intent based on Akira's comment, thanks Akira!]
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Hans, I think this thread is very viable as it is, but you would be better off renaming the thread title to "Images shot with dedicated panorama cameras" or something like that. This way, your intention for this thread clearer.
The posted image is beautiful also as a starter.
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Hans, I think this thread is very viable as it is, but you would be better off renaming the thread title to "Images shot with dedicated panorama cameras" or something like that. This way, your intention for this thread clearer.
The posted image is beautiful also as a starter.
Thank you very much for your advice Akira, duely noted and updated.
Thanks for the compliment on my photo!
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The posted image is beautiful also as a starter.
+1
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In the film era, I used 6x12cm backs on my Arca-Swiss F-Line 4x5" technical camera. This worked great for making slides for double-spread magazine prints with a Schneider 90mm or Nikkor 65/75mm lens. If I put my bigger 8x10" view camera into "action" (if such a word can be applied to this monsterous bulky camera device), there was 6x17cm back to be inserted as well. Almost all of these large-format slides are deposited to my stock library and I only have a few mediocre scans available.
The bigger cameras become very expensive to operate over time, so towards the last years of my film-based career, I used the comparatively nifty and neat Hasselblad Xpan instead. Of course it wasn't a genuine Hasselblad, only by the label, as the camera itself was a Japanese Fuji design. The Fuji (or Hasselblad) lenses for the XPan were good-excellent performers, although prone to vignetting due to the wide coverage. Thus one should really use the dedicated anti-vignetting filters unless "speed" was of greatest importance.
I'd confess I liked the Xpan better than the Arca-Swiss, as it was faster in use and much more economical too. Plus being smaller and neater, I could even shoot hand-held.
One of my favourite XPan captures is below. Here I had to remove the centre-spot filter as it was getting dark despite the snow and the XPan had only up to 8 secs. exposures. You might set the camera to "B" and lock the shutter release, but the camera would override you and close the shutter after 8 seconds, no matter how long exposure time yu would need. A true design flaw which I complained about to the Hasselblad factory. They just shrugged their shoulders and "saw no reason to change the design, because it was perfect". For whom?
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Thanks Thomas and Birna.
Thanks for the anecdotal story and nice picture, Birna. I recognize the cost of film, especially now and i don't shoot a lot. I also shoot 4x5. For 6x17 i use a Shen Hao PTB617, very nice camera and like any large format, slow to use. That's why i use it ;D I also develop and scan my own film. Obviously, this works for me as it is my hobby. In case it would be work, i doubt i'd do it.
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Back in the analog days of last century I took my 4x5 Sinar on a holiday trip to Southwestern US. It took up the space of all my hand luggage. Heavy Gitzo tripod to add. So I tried to size it down to portable size for the next trips. The result is a partially hand-crafted Frankenpano, combining a Horseman 6x12 back, Mamiya viewfinder and Schneider Super Angulon 58mm in helicoid mount.
With nowadays extreme wideangle lenses, 6x12 with a 58mm lens seems not so wide anymore.
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With nowadays extreme wideangle lenses, 6x12 with a 58mm lens seems not so wide anymore.
So very true. Today we have rectilinear lenses pushing 135 degrees and beyond, and at very affordable price levels as well. Image quality can be surprisingly good too. However, as a tool for image making their fields of applications are almost negatively correlated to their angle of view. Hyper-wide captures of big cities at night, or beaches at sunset, get boring after a while. If you move in very close to get ultra-exaggerated perspectives, one simultaneously observes that depth of field is surprisingly limited despite the short focal lengths. Most über-wide lenses don't have the smoothest bokeh either. Thus the novelty factor wears off rather quickly. For example, I tend to use the 9mm f/5.6 Laowa with 135 degrees view for FX on my DX-cameras Z fc, Z30, instead. Angle of view then shrinks to around 105-110 degrees and the lens is much easier to use creatively. Plus, the DX frame mitigates most of the corner vignetting inherent in these extreme wide-angle designs.
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Thanks Jürgen for adding to the story and Birna for the additional info.
A pano crop this time (1:2), from 4x5 B&W film, same morning as the above colour shot, but now on CHS100-II, Intrepid 4x5, Nikkor 300mm F/9. I like the layers in this shot, but can see that it may not be for everyone.
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A panorama crop from a standard frame - does it work?
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..and another
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A panorama crop from a standard frame - does it work?
I think so.
I like both these cropped frame panos
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Very nice theme Hans :)
Before I glue a panorama mask on my Z7 sensor .. when is it considered a panorama - aspect ratio wise? Is e.g. 16:9 a panorama?
One of the reasons I got my Z7 was the idea of having pixels enough for single frame panoramas.
Already enjoying this theme with great images.
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Thanks Colin
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In camera panorama mode, in this case a Sony A6000. Works fine if your subject doesn't move and if your sensor is very clean.
A quiet day at the Trevi Fountain :o
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I think so.
I like both these cropped frame panos
Ditto here.
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The Tinajas Altas Mountains, Arizona looking east in the AM, March 2020. D800E shot, 100mm. (3:1 aspect ratio)
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I really like the multiple shades of colour in the mountains.
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I really like the multiple shades of colour in the mountains.
+1 Great landscape and sense of depth.
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Two different aspect ratios of this single frame shot. 3:1 and 2:1.
Z7 with 24-70/4 at 70mm/f10.
A cloudy day at "Lejodde" Zealand, Denmark - a salt meadow with a unique flora and a rich bird life.
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From 2022
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Very nice theme Hans :)
Before I glue a panorama mask on my Z7 sensor .. when is it considered a panorama - aspect ratio wise? Is e.g. 16:9 a panorama?
One of the reasons I got my Z7 was the idea of having pixels enough for single frame panoramas.
Already enjoying this theme with great images.
Thanks Lars, just trying to create a spot to post some photos ;D
No need to be too specific what a panorama makes, but as a guideline i myself stick to 2:1 or wider. That doesn't have to be a fixed rule for me though
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In camera panorama mode, in this case a Sony A6000. Works fine if your subject doesn't move and if your sensor is very clean.
A quiet day at the Trevi Fountain :o
I find that a very compelling picture, Hans!
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+1 Great landscape and sense of depth.
+2, great layering!
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One from the digital stack of mine, 6x17 crop from a D850 image. Isola San Giulio in Lago Orta in Italy.
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One of my favourite XPan photos. Very early morning in the Randane mountains. The chilly autumn days have turned the landscapre into a range of reddish, warm hues. Combine with the absolute silence apart from the wind and some early birds, and you feel pure pleasure when the shutter release is pushed.
I've had this printed as double-page spread in a glossy magazine and it looked marvellous.
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Photographer in action. Cefalu Sicily, the site where portions of "Cinema Paradiso" were filmed.
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I find that a very compelling picture, Hans!
Cheers Hans!
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0mm/f10.
A cloudy day at "Lejodde" Zealand, Denmark - a salt meadow with a unique flora and a rich bird life.
I like the wider one.
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One of my favourite XPan photos. Very early morning in the Randane mountains.
Amazing fall color. Perfect for XPan. I'm guessing that it was the 30mm or the 45mm?
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It's the 45mm f/4 lens.
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The built-in "panorama" functionality of my NEX-5N delivers a composite jpg. If the movement is swift enough, even the ultra-fast Rodenstock TV-Heligon might render a coherent image :) The feature doesn't mitigate the issue of ultra-thin depth-of-field, though.
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Back to the "real" pano format of the XPan. It takes some experimenting to get the most out of the elongated format, however once in a while it is co-operative :)
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Here's a scene from 2017 in Mongolia that was beautiful in its own right and I struggled to capture that fully
Crop from original taken with a D300 and a Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8
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Here's a scene from 2017 in Mongolia that was beautiful in its own right and I struggled to capture that fully
Crop from original taken with a D300 and a Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8
Beautiful scenery Colin and great panorama! I know that struggle all too well - also the struggle to get it right in post processing.
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The XPan discussion inspired me to make this "ZPan" 65:24 panorama ;D
Z7 with an old Minolta 55mm - a frosty December afternoon with icy trees.
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Sunny Friday-Tourist district. 28mm Nikkor-N.C. (2.2:1)
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Beautiful scenery Colin and great panorama! I know that struggle all too well - also the struggle to get it right in post processing.
+1 I love the layering.
Sunny Friday-Tourist district. 28mm Nikkor-N.C. (2.2:1)
Pier traffic! ;D
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Arthurs Lake in the central highlands of Tasmania. We had it to ourselves on that day.
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Thank you Hans and Lars
And nice to see some creative variations on the more well known panorama concept too
Arthurs Lake in the central highlands of Tasmania. We had it too ourselves on that day.
This works particularly well
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Nikon D800, Nikkor ED 180mm 1:2.8 AIS, crop
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Thank you Hans and Lars
And nice to see some creative variations on the more well known panorama concept too
This works particularly well
Thank you Colin.
More Tasmania. 2:1 crop from D750 105mm f2.5AIS
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Nikon D800, Nikkor ED 180mm 1:2.8 AIS, crop
Which mountain range will this be?
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Which mountain range will this be?
This is a view from Bussen over the Federsee in foreground in southeastern direction to Allgäuer Alpen/Austrian Alps.
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Small view
16/9 crop
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Lake Atitlan Guatamala Sony A6000
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I just read about a fun app called XP4N simulating XPAN here!:
https://petapixel.com/2024/09/05/new-iphone-app-aims-to-recreate-the-charm-of-the-hasselblad-xpan/
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I just read about a fun app called XP4N simulating XPAN here!:
https://petapixel.com/2024/09/05/new-iphone-app-aims-to-recreate-the-charm-of-the-hasselblad-xpan/
That does seem like fun Akira! And nice examples too
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"Two 35mm frames side by side" -- owners of a Nikkor PC 35mm f/2.8 or f/3.5 lenses can get the "XPan feeling" for free. Just shoot two separate frames with the lens shifted to either side, then join in post-processing. The frames should fit almost perfectly if the camera is kept still. Come to think of it, I do own such lenses, thus can savew not just $0.99 on the app, but the cost of an iPhone as well :) A project for the weekend.
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That does seem like fun Akira! And nice examples too
Thank you, Hans! I like its simplistic UI as well which enhances the joy of use.
"Two 35mm frames side by side" -- owners of a Nikkor PC 35mm f/2.8 or f/3.5 lenses can get the "XPan feeling" for free. Just shoot two separate frames with the lens shifted to either side, then join in post-processing. The frames should fit almost perfectly if the camera is kept still. Come to think of it, I do own such lenses, thus can savew not just $0.99 on the app, but the cost of an iPhone as well :) A project for the weekend.
Birna, I'm "owner of iPhone14" and thus can save the cost of PC 35/2.8 which is far more than 0.99 USD! ;D
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We sit on opposite sides of the fence :) If opportunity avails, I'm going to test the concept of the 35PC.
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We sit on opposite sides of the fence :) If opportunity avails, I'm going to test the concept of the 35PC.
The fence may be there but it is infinitely transparent, not something like the iron curtain.
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"Two 35mm frames side by side" -- owners of a Nikkor PC 35mm f/2.8 or f/3.5 lenses can get the "XPan feeling" for free. Just shoot two separate frames with the lens shifted to either side, then join in post-processing. The frames should fit almost perfectly if the camera is kept still. Come to think of it, I do own such lenses, thus can savew not just $0.99 on the app, but the cost of an iPhone as well :) A project for the weekend.
This has been an interesting discussion, tho I admit to not being a purist about how a panorama is created or defined.
After reading Birna's I remembered that I have a PC-35mm f/2.8. I've used other lenses for stitched panos to chronicle the progress, and decided to try the PC. Here are a horizontal and vertical pair that I used the maximum shift and rotated the lens 180° between shots. There is a pretty large overlap of about 20%, but less distortion than a normal stitch. A little blending of the overlap in PS tidied up the few parallax issues. The resulting stitch has almost the same angle of view as my 20/3.5Ai. Sadly, not the most dramatic subject.
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This has been an interesting discussion, tho I admit to not being a purist about how a panorama is created or defined.
Although this thread is, just as the title says, dedicated to the non-stitched pano, it is not to be purist or to condescend the digital stitching. It is rather the rule or the restriction of a fun game.
I initially supported Hans for starting this thread because it offers a challenge that is different from creating the stitching pano.
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Use of the PC lenses still requires a perfectly stationary camera. Thus this approach is in an intermediate position between a stationary camera and single-frame captures in a panoramic view, and a rotating/moving camera taking several frames for later stitching.
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Proof of concept. I ought to remember the PC-Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 never was a great IR champion, so should have pressed the older PC-Nikkor 35mm f/3.5 into service instead :) I set the aperture to f/8 to reduce the annoying IR hot spot. The 35PC was shifted all the way, which leads to some vignetting in the extreme corners of the frame.
Two frames on Nikon Z5 using the B+W 093 IR filter. Frames run through PTGui afterwards. Next time I'll use the 35mm f/3.5 lens instead, and avoid the extreme shifts.
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unexpected encounter
iPhone 12Pro, XP4N app (Akira, thank you for the tip!)
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The early cat takes the late bird.
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The old PC-Nikkor 35mm f/3.5, as expected, performed much better in IR. It is less sharp than the newer f/2.8 and image contrast is more moderate as well. However, the performance still suffices to make acceptable mages (?)
Same setup as with the 35/2.8 PC. Apparently, I save myself the trouble of getting the iPhone to get the XPanN app. Or regret that I sold my XPan a few years ago.
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unexpected encounter
No matter how you "made" this, i love this pano Jürgen
It feels photographically strong and tells a story, plus i like the shape of the crouching "tiger"
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unexpected encounter
iPhone 12Pro, XP4N app (Akira, thank you for the tip!)
Glad to know you like the app, Jürgen! This is a nice capture.
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The early cat takes the late bird.
He better wouldn't try - swans can get pretty violent. I'll look up and post a photo of a nice swan battle that I have somewhere.
No matter how you "made" this, i love this pano Jürgen
It feels photographically strong and tells a story, plus i like the shape of the crouching "tiger"
Oh, I didn't "make" this, just pressed the button :). I'm glad you like it.
Glad to know you like the app, Jürgen! This is a nice capture.
yes the app is fun, I wish my Nikon would be more flexible in terms of aspect ratios.
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If this wish would ever come true...
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Two more with XP4N on iPhone14.
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The last example is compelling, Akira.
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The last example is compelling, Akira.
Thank you, Birna!
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Thank you, Birna!
Truly cinematic feel!
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Truly cinematic feel!
Thank you, Fons!
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Akira and Jürgen - those iPhone XPan simulations are great.
I read that the Hasselblad XPan was produced in collaboration between Fujifilm and Hasselblad and that Fujifilm produced their own almost identical "XPan" - the TX-1. Then I recalled the medium format Fuji G617 and saw that Hans Cremers already posted a 6x17 format image. Here's a few more.
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Vesterålen, Norway, heading towards Nyksund, both with 55mm f/3.5 AI on Z8 from a moving vehicle.
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Vesterålen, Norway, heading towards Nyksund, both with 55mm f/3.5 AI on Z8 from a moving vehicle.
Lovely Øivind
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Thanks Colin, it is a really nice area and these are two of my favorite views on the way from Sortland to Nyksund.
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Thanks Colin, it is a really nice area and these are two of my favorite views on the way from Sortland to Nyksund.
Serene composition and the panorama goes a big way in putting as viewer right there. Inmersive. I can feel this places are special.
Thank you for sharing
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Thank you, Paco!
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Thanks Colin, it is a really nice area and these are two of my favorite views on the way from Sortland to Nyksund.
The ones with the leading lines are very effective (wire fence, roads) and i like them a lot. I like the others too because i am a sucker for panos ;D
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Akira and Jürgen - those iPhone XPan simulations are great.
I read that the Hasselblad XPan was produced in collaboration between Fujifilm and Hasselblad and that Fujifilm produced their own almost identical "XPan" - the TX-1. Then I recalled the medium format Fuji G617 and saw that Hans Cremers already posted a 6x17 format image. Here's a few more.
Thank you, Lars. I love these idyllic images that fit the wide panorama format really well.
Vesterålen, Norway, heading towards Nyksund, both with 55mm f/3.5 AI on Z8 from a moving vehicle.
ivind, these makes a nice pair of the contrasting 'capes: sea and mountain.
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Thanks Hans and Akira.
Yes sea and mountains - that nicely sums up Vesterålen.
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Over-the-horizon radar...kangaroo style. Z50 50-250z heavy crop
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Over-the-horizon radar...kangaroo style. Z50 50-250z heavy crop
Very effective!
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Very effective!
Thank you Keith :)
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Very effective!
I agree, very provocative (artistically of course, not politically ;D!
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Love the kangaroo style!
I thought a panoramic format worked for this one.
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I thought a panoramic format worked for this one.
Most definitely!
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Thanks, Akira!
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Transition from the night to the day. XP4N in iPhone14.
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Thank you, Lars. I love these idyllic images that fit the wide panorama format really well.
Thank you, Akira - I'm glad you like the scenery and find the panorama format as a good fit. It's a fun exercise ... a limitation that leads to inspiration ;)
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Golden hour under a bridge.
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Golden hour under a bridge.
Lars,
this is a perfect panorama composition. All respect!
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Lars,
this is a perfect panorama composition. All respect!
Indeed, an amazing capture!
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Lars,
this is a perfect panorama composition. All respect!
Indeed, an amazing capture!
Many, many thanks, Jürgen and Akira! :) I was actually a bit inspired by Akira's cinematic (quote: Fons) shots in Reply #64, image no. 2 with the diagonal lines.
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Golden hour under a bridge.
Yes Lars, there are so many things to like about this image
Lovely work
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Visitor unseen at time of exposure. Z24-70@35mm.
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Yes Lars, there are so many things to like about this image
Lovely work
Many, many thanks to you too, Colin!
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Great contributions! Very inspirational
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Visitor unseen at time of exposure. Z24-70@35mm.
Very nice, Keith! :)
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I recalled some cloudscapes I posted on the Clouds theme a while ago and I think the panorama format fits well. XPan aspect ratio.
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Love the kangaroo style!
I agree, very provocative (artistically of course, not politically ;D!
Gentlemen, a belated thank you for your comments. :)
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Lars, both you and Akira have contributed some excellent "big sky" panos to this thread.
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I recalled some cloudscapes I posted on the Clouds theme a while ago and I think the panorama format fits well. XPan aspect ratio.
Lars, both look spectacular, but I would prefer the first one.
Lars, both you and Akira have contributed some excellent "big sky" panos to this thread.
Thank you, Keith!
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Rain season still on, it was badly needed
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Nice Armando.
One from the other week, gloomy dawn. Ektachrome 6x17.
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Was it a cat I saw?
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Hey, there are some wonderful contrasts between these two
Rain season still on, it was badly needed
Rich vibrant greens & snaking lines of crops
One from the other week, gloomy dawn. Ektachrome 6x17.
The reds here are a great follow-on from Armando's XPAN and it looks like a hint of mist clinging to the trees?
I feel like I'm missing out as I have an Android phone and use it much more than my camera
Does anyone know of an app as good as XPAN that runs on Android?
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Was it a cat I saw?
I still don't know how the XPAN app works
Do you simply take two shots then it stitches them?
With a street scene like this, have you had any issues with parts of the scene moving/changing between shots?
Or is it just a question of choosing your subjects with this caveat in mind?
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The reds here are a great follow-on from Armando's XPAN and it looks like a hint of mist clinging to the trees?
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Thanks Colin! The colour combo with Armando's image was not intentional, glad you like that. And indeed, there still was some mist between the distant trees, thanks for noticing.
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I have checked Akira's link, and I cannot find any Android links to developer Bram Bos. Let us hope that Bram Bos extends his XP4N app to run on Android phones as well.
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I feel like I'm missing out as I have an Android phone and use it much more than my camera
Does anyone know of an app as good as XPAN that runs on Android?
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I still don't know how the XPAN app works
Do you simply take two shots then it stitches them?
With a street scene like this, have you had any issues with parts of the scene moving/changing between shots?
Or is it just a question of choosing your subjects with this caveat in mind?
Hi Colin,
may I answer your question? The XPAN app just crops out a 1:2,7 portion of the original photo, there is no stitching. I'm using ProCamera app on iPhone; it offers several panorama formats (2:1, 2.4:1, 3:1), also just a crop of the original 4:3, but it also saves an uncropped DNG file that comes handy in postproduction. For me the main advantage of XPAN app or ProCamera is the option to view and compose the shot in panorama. I wish there were more ratio options in my Nikon Zf.
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I still don't know how the XPAN app works
Do you simply take two shots then it stitches them?
With a street scene like this, have you had any issues with parts of the scene moving/changing between shots?
Or is it just a question of choosing your subjects with this caveat in mind?
Hi Colin,
may I answer your question? The XPAN app just crops out a 1:2,7 portion of the original photo, there is no stitching. I'm using ProCamera app on iPhone; it offers several panorama formats (2:1, 2.4:1, 3:1), also just a crop of the original 4:3, but it also saves an uncropped DNG file that comes handy in postproduction. For me the main advantage of XPAN app or ProCamera is the option to view and compose the shot in panorama. I wish there were more ratio options in my Nikon Zf.
Jürgen, thank you for your help. Colin, just as Jürgen says, what XP4N app does is just to crop the iPhone camera's original single image to the 64x24 (XPan) format and apply the selected film simulation. It is as simple as that. And that's why the XP4N users post their images here.
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I have checked Akira's link, and I cannot find any Android links to developer Bram Bos. Let us hope that Bram Bos extends his XP4N app to run on Android phones as well.
Hugh, unfortunately, the XP4N app seems to be only for iPhone and not for Anroid, at least for now...
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Thank you Jürgen and Akira
My initial thought was that i can crop my current images myself....but i see ths advantages of being able to compose with that layout.
And I'd missed the fact it offers film simulation effects
I really like what you're all producing with it.
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My initial thought was that i czn crop my current images myself....but i see ths advantages of beingvable to compose with that layout.
Yes, that's exactly the reason for my favorable impression about XP4N.
I really like what you're all producing with it.
Thank you. Glad you like them!
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Here are some more shot last night.
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Nobody home
iPhone 12Pro
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XP4N is addictive...
Tokyo station.
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Nice work Jürgen and Akira.
Regardless of the techniques used, these are each lovely, well found & composed images
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Here are some more shot last night.
This last one of #112 intrigues me quite a bit, Akira. Very nice!
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Nobody home
iPhone 12Pro
Love the idyllic and pleasant atmosphere.
Nice work Jürgen and Akira.
Regardless of the techniques used, these are each lovely, well found & composed images
Thank you, Colin!
This last one of #112 intrigues me quite a bit, Akira. Very nice!
Thank you, Hans!
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One of the more appropriate subjects for the pano.
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One of the more appropriate subjects for the pano.
want an inside pic with the girls
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want an inside pic with the girls
The assumption may not work...
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Sunny autumn day.
iPhone 12Pro
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Yokohama Foreign General Cemetery.
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Lars, both you and Akira have contributed some excellent "big sky" panos to this thread.
Lars, both look spectacular, but I would prefer the first one.
A late many thanks!, Keith and Akira.
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A lot of great panoramas has been added! It's very inspirational.
Two more:
First one is a landscape shot that didn't work, but I gave it a try with a panorama ratio.
Second is from yesterday - a BIF pano!
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Dusk at the In-N-Out Burger parking lot, Barstow California. 14mm/Z7II. (≈2.75:1)
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Great stuff everyone!
@Lars: i'm particularly intrigued by the 1st one of #124
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Around here, autumn is often very foggy. Today we were lucky and two hours later the sun came out and it became a wonderful autumn day.
iPhone 12Pro
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Crescent moon at dawn. 21:9
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Wow, some great stuff in here, especially with the pano mode on the iphones ;)
Another attempt of mine, again with the 617 on medium format film (Portra 160). Early morning autumnal reflection ...
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Dusk at the In-N-Out Burger parking lot, Barstow California. 14mm/Z7II. (≈2.75:1)
That pano works very well!, Keith - also looks like a great lens and camera combo.
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@Lars: i'm particularly intrigued by the 1st one of #124
Many thanks, Hans!
Another attempt of mine, again with the 617 on medium format film (Portra 160). Early morning autumnal reflection ...
I like your panos shot on film - also technically interesting. Are they recent shots?
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Nice work Jürgen and Akira.
Regardless of the techniques used, these are each lovely, well found & composed images
Wow, some great stuff in here, especially with the pano mode on the iphones ;)
+1 :)
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A few more - from an afternoon walk in full moon.
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Jürgen, Hans, Akira: Excellent contributions to the thread, thank you. Lars, I particularly like the shot showing the flock of birds.
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Lars, Keith, thank You for Your kind words. Thanks Hans for opening this thread, Panorama is so much fun.
Jürgen
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... Thanks Hans for opening this thread, Panorama is so much fun. ...
No worries ... yes it is!
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Many thanks, Hans!
I like your panos shot on film - also technically interesting. Are they recent shots?
Thanks Lars. They're fairly recent. I started my 617 journey roughly 1,5 years ago and i'm still learning. I started the large format journey about a year earlier (4x5). I've compiled a system where i can reuse most everything between 4x5 and 617, save for the body and film holders.
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Low traffic on B312
Nikon Zf, Viltrox 20mm f2.8
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Lars, I particularly like the shot showing the flock of birds.
Many thanks, Keith - it was also a joy to watch and hear the flock of geese flying over my head and continue over a lake.
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Thanks Lars. They're fairly recent. I started my 617 journey roughly 1,5 years ago and i'm still learning. I started the large format journey about a year earlier (4x5). I've compiled a system where i can reuse most everything between 4x5 and 617, save for the body and film holders.
It must be an attentive and slow-paced way of photography - in a very positive sense. I remember the slower pace when I photographed 24x36 film in manual mode using a light meter - the idea was to use that experience with a larger format camera for landscape photography. I had my eyes on the Fuji 6x9 cameras, but I never got one. Hope to see more from your interesting journey.
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From a coast where I spent many summer vacations as a child and teenager. I visited the place recently with my brother who hadn't been there since mid 1980's.
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A somewhat ramshackled alley in my neighborhood. Santa Monica Mountains in the distance...
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Jürgen, Hans, Akira: Excellent contributions to the thread, thank you. Lars, I particularly like the shot showing the flock of birds.
Thank you, Keith!
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A cold and frosty afternoon in late November two years ago. 6x17 format. I might have posted it previously - this time, at least in a better aspect ratio!
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on our daily walk, the sun didn't come out, but lots of fresh air...
iPhone 12Pro
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Very nice, Lars and Jürgen!
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Kanda river at dusk.
XP4N on iPhone14.
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A view of a historical city in Denmark: Fredericia (Jutland). A danish fortress city from 1650. Shot towards the harbour on a summer day 2023 from a water tower on Prins Georgs bastion 44 mtrs. above sea level. This day, the danish navy was visiting the harbour.
Quote from danish site Kulturarv.dk:
On the land side, the town was laid out in circular form with nine large moated bastions. On the waterfront, the town had a somewhat weaker fortification line together with a citadel as its last defence. There is every indication that Fredericia was planned as a fortress town. The streets are regular and entirely perpendicular.
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Very nice, Lars and Jürgen!
Many thanks, Hans - I'm enjoying the contributions and the challenge in this theme.
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February of 2010; The D3 was the Camera Of The Gods (full 24x36, pretty good in low light) and the 14-24G was pretty good too.
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I just read about a fun app called XP4N simulating XPAN here!:
https://petapixel.com/2024/09/05/new-iphone-app-aims-to-recreate-the-charm-of-the-hasselblad-xpan/
Thanks for the Tip Akira. You show great results with this app !
Just downloaded the XP4N. Made by the Dutchman Bram Bos.
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February of 2010; The D3 was the Camera Of The Gods (full 24x36, pretty good in low light) and the 14-24G was pretty good too.
Lovely shot, Keith
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S5 Pro
Sigma 10-20
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February of 2010; The D3 was the Camera Of The Gods (full 24x36, pretty good in low light) and the 14-24G was pretty good too.
it implies the most important things: fuel and burger :)
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February of 2010; The D3 was the Camera Of The Gods (full 24x36, pretty good in low light) and the 14-24G was pretty good too.
A pretty good pano too, Keith :)
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it implies the most important things: fuel and burger :)
Ha! Thank you Thomas, Lars, and John...glad you liked it!
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John: You got all the power lines lined up .. .that's good as these often cause a lot of mino, yet annoying, mismatches among thre frames :)
Your S5 needs a cleaning though.
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From a quick capture with the 85mm f/1.8 S wide open, crop to about half width of a DX mode frame on Z8. Finding an image within an image, resolution is remarkable even at this aperture. Open in new tab for the 100% view.
(Too bad with the branch that got in the way, but hard to avoid.)
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John: You got all the power lines lined up .. .that's good as these often cause a lot of mino, yet annoying, mismatches among thre frames :)
Your S5 needs a cleaning though.
Thanks Birna. Oops, didn't notice that before. I will clean my S5
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John: You got all the power lines lined up ..
.that's good as these often cause a lot of mino, yet annoying, mismatches among thre frames :)
Are there frames in any of these (unstitched) panos?
I think John took a wise & skillful approach ;)
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Thanks for the Tip Akira. You show great results with this app !
Just downloaded the XP4N. Made by the Dutchman Bram Bos.
John, hope you enjoy it and share your results here!
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Thanks Akira !
Local Pub in Tilburg
iPhone 11
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First test of the app ;)
Hart van Brabantlaan and Westpoint, Tilburg
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desert in Maroc Ipone with Akira app
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seaside Casblanca Iphone with Akira app
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Thanks Akira !
Local Pub in Tilburg
iPhone 11
Oh, I love this. Thank you for sharing!
seaside Casblanca Iphone with Akira app
Nice capture of the scene fitting to the pano!
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Nice capture of the scene fitting to the pano!
thank you Akira
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Oh, I love this. Thank you for sharing!
Nice capture of the scene fitting to the pano!
Thanks Akira.
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An area called Little Finland - yesterday afternoon. A short walk outside the city where I live, in Denmark. XPan ratio.
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Lars: Classic use of the pano format...very wide subject. I like the limited color also.
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+1 from me.
Very peaceful; love the symmetry.
Lars: Classic use of the pano format...very wide subject. I like the limited color also.
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An area called Little Finland - yesterday afternoon. A short walk outside the city where I live, in Denmark. XPan ratio.
Another vote from me too Lars.
I love the subtle warmth in the tones too
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An area called Little Finland - yesterday afternoon. A short walk outside the city where I live, in Denmark. XPan ratio.
Wow!
Have you also tried this as a B&W?
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At the beach with the 35/2 Apo Lanthar. XPan aspect ratio (2.7:1)
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Lars: Classic use of the pano format...very wide subject. I like the limited color also.
Many thanks, Keith - I took the shot with some kind of pano format in mind. Funny how this theme has changed my way of framing to also consider a pano. Glad you like the color - I processed it to reflect the scene .. there aren't much colors in February. Only some warm sunlight on the top of the spruces in the far background.
+1 from me.
Very peaceful; love the symmetry.
Many thanks, Hugh - exactly what I wanted. It's a place that is part of one of my hiking routes and it is usually a peaceful place to take a stop.
Another vote from me too Lars.
I love the subtle warmth in the tones too
Many thanks, Colin - I'm glad you like the warmth in the tones as I was actually aiming for that and to keep the snow white without a bluish hue. I find snow to be a bit tricky when deciding WB.
Wow!
Have you also tried this as a B&W?
Many thanks, Hans. I might try a B&W but I've never really gotten my head around B&W processing.
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At the beach with the 35/2 Apo Lanthar. XPan aspect ratio (2.7:1)
That's really nice, Keith - with the layers, the fence(?) with the wave form and the people (as silhouettes) around in the frame.
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Lovely shot, Keith
View on Tilburg highest tower, Westpoint, from Nature area Huis ter Heide
D2h 24-70vr XPAN format
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I'm seeing some great stuff in here, but time to bump the thread.
From a recent outing with the pano camera, 6x17, Adox CHSii-100, 300mm lens @ f/45. This could have gone in some other threads as well, but alas ...
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I'm seeing some great stuff in here, but time to bump the thread.
From a recent outing with the pano camera, 6x17, Adox CHSii-100, 300mm lens @ f/45. This could have gone in some other threads as well, but alas ...
Nice, f/45!
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Nice, f/45!
Thanks Fons!
F/45, that's large format for you 8)
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From a recent outing with the pano camera, 6x17, Adox CHSii-100, 300mm lens @ f/45. This could have gone in some other threads as well, but alas ...
I like this; This is an interesting "sample" of the forest.
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I like this; This is an interesting "sample" of the forest.
Thanks Keith! I am a sucker for more abstract forest shots
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March 18
Panorama single shot
Les Vosges
Zf - Z105mm f/2.8 vrs
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March 18
Panorama single shot
Les Vosges
Zf - Z105mm f/2.8 vrs
looking at your sensor spots, you tried F 45 :)
nice picture btw
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looking at your sensor spots,
The two faint planets a little above the horizon? :P
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looking at your sensor spots, you tried F 45 :)
nice picture btw
The two faint planets a little above the horizon? :P
My sensor appeared dirty didnt bring no cleaning solution, cleaned-up in photoshop i thought!
Thanks ;)
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I'm seeing some great stuff in here, but time to bump the thread.
From a recent outing with the pano camera, 6x17, Adox CHSii-100, 300mm lens @ f/45. This could have gone in some other threads as well, but alas ...
I like this; This is an interesting "sample" of the forest.
+1 - I like to photograph "samples" of the forest myself :-)
Hans, I really enjoy your film pano photography and watching the results of the gear used - in my own film days it would have been a dream come true to try that ... especially at f/45!
Thanks for the bump .. here is a 6*17 pano from a meadow and forest area that is part of my regular hikes. Yesterday afternoon - low sun. Z7 and 24-70/4 at 35mm - I know, boring gear compared to yours ;)
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March 18
Panorama single shot
Les Vosges
Zf - Z105mm f/2.8 vrs
Great pano of the Vosges, Fons and the layers - from my trip to Alsace, I remember there are some great places with old castles that are located high in the landscape with great views like this.
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+1 - I like to photograph "samples" of the forest myself :-)
Hans, I really enjoy your film pano photography and watching the results of the gear used - in my own film days it would have been a dream come true to try that ... especially at f/45!
Thanks for the bump .. here is a 6*17 pano from a meadow and forest area that is part of my regular hikes. Yesterday afternoon - low sun. Z7 and 24-70/4 at 35mm - I know, boring gear compared to yours ;)
Thanks Lars!
Not boring gear at all. I've been looking at simplifying my digital setup (D850 and couple of lenses) and have been looking at Z7 and 24-120. But, alas, i can only spend my money once within one budget allowance ;D ;D ;D
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Great pano of the Vosges, Fons and the layers - from my trip to Alsace, I remember there are some great places with old castles that are located high in the landscape with great views like this.
Lars this is taken from Lichtenberg castle, in Reipertswiller, the northern Vogesen, thank you!
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I really enjoy this theme - here is a 6*17 panorama from one frame taken with my Fuji X-T1.
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I really enjoy this theme - here is a 6*17 panorama from one frame taken with my Fuji X-T1.
the form factor of the vessel contradicts the panorama - I like it
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the form factor of the vessel contradicts the panorama - I like it
Many thanks, Thomas - I was a bit hesitant with the form factor as you say .. the size of the ship. But I think this theme is also about exploring the pano format and it's very interesting to see the different contributions.
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I really enjoy this theme ...
Great stuff and me too !!
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Ploughing and harvesting at the same time.
iPhone 12ProMax
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Ploughing and harvesting at the same time.
Lovely image Jürgen
Beautifully composed, and a great snapshot of Springtime activities
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Lovely image Jürgen
Beautifully composed, and a great snapshot of Springtime activities
Colin, thank you very much for your kind comments.
The photo is also an example that the statement is true: the best camera is the one you have with you. When I came back half an hour later with a ‘real’ camera, the farmer and the storks had already finished their work.
So let's not disrespect the smartphone :)
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Lovely image Jürgen
Beautifully composed, and a great snapshot of Springtime activities
+1
Jürgen,
I see some interesting birds in your image. Is it a Kite in the air? Storks was once a normal visitor across Denmark, but (also) in Denmark large areas of the wetlands has been drained and turned into agricultural areas - many as mono cultures. In 2022 9 breeding stork couples was observed in Denmark - in 2018, only two. Unfortunately, beautiful birds.
The photo is also an example that the statement is true: the best camera is the one you have with you. When I came back half an hour later with a ‘real’ camera, the farmer and the storks had already finished their work.
So let's not disrespect the smartphone :)
This is a great example :)
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... your image reminded me of a recent shot of a similar scene - far from as interesting as your composition and great timing with the many birds.
I just liked the (panorama) of gulls lining up for some "fast food" - and now, watching your image, the lack of other bird species is maybe a bit discouraging.
Note: replaced with a more dusty one.. spring has been extremely dry this year :)
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Lars, I really like your photo. The dust behind the tractor and the seagulls flying up - very nice. Definitely more birds than in my photo. Yes, there are kites in the air (I didn't realise that kite doesn't just mean a piece of sports equipment, but also a bird - in German it's called ‘Rotmilan’)
On the subject of storks: when I was young, there was only one stork's nest here in the village. In recent years, the number has risen to at least 20 nests. Above my balcony, the animal air traffic is now almost as dense as above Frankfurt Airport :)
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the best camera is the one you have with you.
So let's not disrespect the smartphone :)
I fully agree
My smartphone is generally with me most of the time
My D500, much less so. When it is, it often has a 300mm & TC14 on it, taken for a specific purpose
I only occasionally use by proper monitor & computer to browse the NG forum (most of the time, I use an A4 size tablet)
When I do, I'm reminded of the high quality of many people's posts here. And that my Google Pixel 6 needs good conditions look good on a large screen
And yet I have an A1 sized print made from an uncropped pic from this smartphone that looks good at the intended viewing distance
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Jürgen,
I see some interesting birds in your image. Is it a Kite in the air?
Yes Lars, I too think this does look like a kite
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Lars, I really like your photo. The dust behind the tractor and the seagulls flying up - very nice. Definitely more birds than in my photo. Yes, there are kites in the air (I didn't realise that kite doesn't just mean a piece of sports equipment, but also a bird - in German it's called ‘Rotmilan’)
On the subject of storks: when I was young, there was only one stork's nest here in the village. In recent years, the number has risen to at least 20 nests. Above my balcony, the animal air traffic is now almost as dense as above Frankfurt Airport :)
Many thanks, Jürgen. Yes, it is a classic scene with great numbers of gulls lining up and flocking around tractors churning up the soil (replaced the image with a more dusty one.. spring has been extremely dry this year).
Same for me - for many years a Kite was those we played with as kids :) The 'Rotmilan' must be what is named 'Rød (rot) Glente' in Danish - luckily they are increasing in numbers from a very low population (and extinct 100 years ago). I envy your dense animal air traffic ;D especially with storks! In my childhood it was in the newspapers and tv when the stork (or few storks) arrived - sensation if/when the raised kids. It was estimated storks would become extinct in Denmark and I've read that after 2000 and until 2004 there were no breeding couples.
Yes Lars, I too think this does look like a kite
Many thanks for confirming, Colin :)
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Lars, this scene could just as easily be one from springtime in NZ or Australia. Gulls seem to be the avian opportunists the world over!
... your image reminded me of a recent shot of a similar scene - far from as interesting as your composition and great timing with the many birds.
I just liked the (panorama) of gulls lining up for some "fast food" - and now, watching your image, the lack of other bird species is maybe a bit discouraging.
Note: replaced with a more dusty one.. spring has been extremely dry this year :)
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The same here, in spring many gulls are gathering to eat during farming works
I also see more than 3 different bird species into the scene
And my IPhone is my (wide angle) everyday camera
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single pano
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Move on, there's nothing to see here.
Nikon Zf, Nikkor 40mm F2
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Lars, this scene could just as easily be one from springtime in NZ or Australia. Gulls seem to be the avian opportunists the world over!
The same here, in spring many gulls are gathering to eat during farming works
I also see more than 3 different bird species into the scene
And my IPhone is my (wide angle) everyday camera
Nasos - yes, and I think there is a Kestrel as well(?)
A belated many thanks for your comments! - gulls, the avian opportunists, will probably outlive humans.. ;D
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From the same day and place as the my former pano - just later in beautiful low afternoon sun.
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Beautiful rural scenery and wonderful light, Lars. The branch on the right in the picture would probably have fallen victim to my stamping tool. :) :)
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+1
Cropping out the right side also works - but then it would unfortunately no longer be a panorama.
Beautiful rural scenery and wonderful light, Lars. The branch on the right in the picture would probably have fallen victim to my stamping tool. :) :)
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From the same day and place as the my former pano - just later in beautiful low afternoon sun.
Very nice. I'll be the odd one out re. the branches on the right. I'd leave them, just enough "imperfection" to really put the viewer in the spot.
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Great shot Lars
The more I see panorama and 16:9 format pictures, the less I enjoy the “traditional 3:2 and 10:8 view
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The more I see panorama and 16:9 format pictures, the less I enjoy the “traditional 3:2 and 10:8 view
;D ;D ;D
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Great shot Lars
The more I see panorama and 16:9 format pictures, the less I enjoy the “traditional 3:2 and 10:8 view
And to add insult to injury ... here's one at 3:1 8) 8) 8). 6x17 on Adox CHSii-100, 210mm, f/16
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Beautiful rural scenery and wonderful light, Lars. The branch on the right in the picture would probably have fallen victim to my stamping tool. :) :)
+1
Cropping out the right side also works - but then it would unfortunately no longer be a panorama.
Very nice. I'll be the odd one out re. the branches on the right. I'd leave them, just enough "imperfection" to really put the viewer in the spot.
Great shot Lars
The more I see panorama and 16:9 format pictures, the less I enjoy the “traditional 3:2 and 10:8 view
Jürgen, Hugh, Hans and Andrew - many thanks!
I kept the branch to the right for similar reasons as Hans suggest - it acts as a kind of frame and also part of the surroundings .. and as Hugh says, it would be less pano cropped. I think, like Andrew say, some images really works much better in pano format.
Here is a version with the suggested removal of the branch and a "lesser pano" 16:9 crop with more sky, the tree to the left and a small stream in the bottom.
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And the other side of the hill - 30 min. later. Don't mention the ropes.. it's "context" ;D
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And the other side of the hill - 30 min. later. Don't mention the ropes.. it's "context" ;D
I like this one best. The house is out of the center, thereby removing the unspoken suggestion that it is important. The ropes seem to balance with the house, across the frame.
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And the other side of the hill - 30 min. later. Don't mention the ropes.. it's "context" ;D
I like this one best. The house is out of the center, thereby removing the unspoken suggestion that it is important. The ropes seem to balance with the house, across the frame.
Same with me. The ropes are important and don't bother at all.
Lars, I hope You didn't get me wrong with the stamp remark. However, I didn't mean removing the branch by cropping the picture, because the wide image section is very convincing.
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Many thanks Keith and Jürgen!
Thanks for your input about the ropes - yes, I included them intentionally when I took the shot. As a kind of frame and context - and left them there. It is also my own favorite - including the bridge and more of the river works better. In general I've taken the shots with the final pano image in mind - whole frame and no horizontal crop in post.
Keith, good point about the balance across. I know what you mean about the centering of the house. It's the church in the small town and to me it has a significance in the image, but that's just a slightly sentimental attachment.
Jürgen - not at all. I only find it interesting and inspiring how people react to my images - to reflect on and learn. I "stamped" it away as suggested for comparison with a minor crop due to a part of the thick branch having thin branches in the background. The second was as a reaction to Andrews comment - a slightly cropped 16:9 that is still a wide ratio for comparison.
Can I ask you both a question? Does the images look a bit dark and lacking tonal contrast to you? In such images, I always process with a natural look in mind.
Reason I ask is that I replaced my old monitor with a factory calibrated sRGB (Dell 27" 4K) and since then I've had some challenges with colors, tonal contrast and brightness in post processing in Capture One - the output sometimes has an odd color shift and appears darker. Probably differences in the ICC profiles used in Capture one and the monitor. I've adjusted monitor brightness and contrast.
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Can I ask you both a question? Does the images look a bit dark and lacking tonal contrast to you? In such images, I always process with a natural look in mind.
Reason I ask is that I replaced my old monitor with a factory calibrated sRGB (Dell 27" 4K) and since then I've had some challenges with colors, tonal contrast and brightness in post processing in Capture One - the output sometimes has an odd color shift and appears darker. Probably differences in the ICC profiles used in Capture one and the monitor. I've adjusted monitor brightness and contrast.
Lars, for me the images look good, not too dark no missing contrast. In reply #217, the upper image lloks a bit more contrasty and also a bit warmer in white balance. What ICC profile do you use for output to NikonGear in C1?
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Lars, for me the images look good, not too dark no missing contrast. In reply #217, the upper image lloks a bit more contrasty and also a bit warmer in white balance. What ICC profile do you use for output to NikonGear in C1?
Many thanks, Jürgen - that's great to know. For JPG export, I've used the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 profile for many years. Things has undoubtedly evolved over the years, so maybe I should look for a more recent profile - a newer standard profile.
I use the built-in "Nikon Z7 Neutral" ICC profile in C1 - same profile as in camera. Also, I use a linear curve - no film curve etc.
In #217 the WB is the same but small difference in tint, differences in curves, shadow recovery and exposure differs so there is a difference.
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Can I ask you both a question? Does the images look a bit dark and lacking tonal contrast to you? In such images, I always process with a natural look in mind.
I happen to view Nikongear.net on my better Eizo calibrated monitor today. The images look "natural", with no perceivable color cast.
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I happen to view Nikongear.net on my better Eizo calibrated monitor today. The images look "natural", with no perceivable color cast.
Many thanks, Keith. That's also great to know - my calibrated Dell monitor is not in the league of a (better) Eizo monitor, but it turned out to be a serious upgrade for my photo editing. It also revealed that many old edits needed some rework.
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Thought this theme should have a sunset sooner or later. Here is one I shared with my aunt in the autumn .. a place I've visited many summers as a child. We just enjoyed watching the sun setting in silence (..interrupted by me fiddling with the camera..).
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Many thanks, Keith. That's also great to know - my calibrated Dell monitor is not in the league of a (better) Eizo monitor, but it turned out to be a serious upgrade for my photo editing. It also revealed that many old edits needed some rework.
I had a similar experience when I went from 2010 laptop to nice NEC monitor in 2012 or so. The color in most of the prints I had made using the laptop --fortunately, not very many-- looked "off".
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Cool day at the beach in April. Z 24-70/2.8@28mm.
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Cool day at the beach in April. Z 24-70/2.8@28mm.
Various daily lives are excellently depicted. Love it!