Microsoft Windows 10 thread

[Björn Carlén]

Thanks, by the way, Frank Fremerey!

[Frank Fremerey]

Thanks, by the way, Frank Fremerey!

It caused me some headache first and I really really wanted to buy the Basiccolor software.

They do not allow to shop like anyone else does but you have to drop them an Email begging to pay for the App.

I went so far as to kneel down and beg to pay 100 Euros for their Ones and Zeros but they never even answered.

Then I found I could extract the drivers needed from their testsoftware or some Service ZIP. And the wonder happended
. IMatch accepted the alien drivers and works

[Frank Fremerey]

Most existing software (win7/8) will follow over into Win10. The issue is getting the stuff installed under 10 if it didn't exist previously. In Win10, you need digitally signed drivers which can be an issue for legacy soft- or hardware. Plus some software checks for OS compatibility before allowing itself to  be installed. In such cases, running the program in a VM is the easier option.
It is possible to enforce non-signed drivers being accepted by some insider tricks during the booting stage. Better understood by searching for the procedure steps than writing a long description myself.
I got my Xrite device up and running in this manner on the W10 test box .

Where did you acquire this interesting insight?

A link to read more would more than welcome.

[Bjørn Rørslett]

Such advice is scattered all over the internet.

One example is here

http://www.howtogeek.com/167723/how-to-disable-driver-signature-verification-on-64-bit-windows-8.1-so-that-you-can-install-unsigned-drivers/

It's targeted for Win 8, but the principle is the same in Win 10 (which, after all, is akin to Win 8.3)

[Bjørn J]

Just remember that if you have a hardware-calibrated monitor you should not install the calibration software from xrite - only the USB-driver so Windows can recognize the device. For calibration you must install the software from the monitor manufacturer.

I don't understand what you mean. I've been using drivers from xrite, since gretag mcbeth did not support Win7. It's been working fine, and it still does. By hardware calibration you mean the different settings on the actual display, right? Contrast, brightness, white balance. When that is set, the software does the fine tuning and creates a profile.  Am I wrong here?

Some monitors designed for image editing are so-called hardware calibrated. It means that when you perform a calibration, you calibrate the monitor itself. With standard monitors you calibrate the graphics card. I think Eizo and NEC eas among the first to incorporate hardware calibration in monitors.
A display calibration device such as xrite comes with two software apps. One is the USB-driver for Windows to recognize the device. The other is the calibration software. If you have a hardware calibrated monitor it is important that you do not install the calibration software, you must instead install the software from the monitor manufacturer.
But you have to install the USB-driver so your computer can recognize the calibrator device.
What monitor are you using? I can help you find out if it is hardware calibrated.

[Björn Carlén]

Oh, I see. No, I have a somewhat lower end Eizo, but I'd shure like to get my hands on a better one. It's on my wish list. What monitors can you recommend, Bjørn J? 24' is ok, but 27 would be lovely.

[Bjørn J]

Oh, I see. No, I have a somewhat lower end Eizo, but I'd shure like to get my hands on a better one. It's on my wish list. What monitors can you recommend, Bjørn J? 24' is ok, but 27 would be lovely.

Right now I think the best compromise between price and performance is the Eizo ColorEdge CS270:
http://www.eizo.se/default.aspx?page=11&product=CS270-BK
Price is between 11-12.000 SEK. It's a hardware-calibrated 27-inch with 2560x1440 resolution, specifically designed for photographic work. Unfortunately, like too many monitors it has 16:9 aspect ratio. 16:10 is more practical, but they tend to be expensive if you want high resolution.
For a less expensive alternative the ColorEdge CS240 is a great choice. Also hardware calibrated, 24-inch, resolution 1920x1200, aspect ratio 16:10. For 6500.- SEK I doubt you will find a better monitor.
http://www.eizo.se/default.aspx?page=11&product=CS240-BK

[Björn Carlén]

Thank you, Bjoern J! That's very kind of you. I didn't know the 24 inch CS had fallen that low in price.
Sorry about the change of topic, guys. I'll behave from now on.

[Jørgen Ramskov]

My cousin upgraded her cheap HP laptop running Windows 7 to Windows 10 the other day. Besides having to do a reboot to install a few missing Windows 7 updates, it was entirely uneventful. No issues at all.

[John Geerts]

I am happily running Windows 7. Although there is a constant message I need to upgrade to Windows 10, which I ignore, suddenly the message is different.

Apparently I MUST upgrade to Windows 10, and they already planned a date as well.  How to get rid of these ridiculous warnings?  How can I kill and terminate for good that Windows10 upgrader?

Sorry message is in Dutch, but the date is clear ...

[Bjørn Rørslett]

Check your setup for Windows updates and patches (Control Panel). Apparently it has been set to Automatic Update?

 You should open the dropdown list and select "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them"

That 200 millions have selected an option is not a recommendation in itself ...

Do read carefully about the hidden "Gotcha" that Microsoft has smuggled into the first time installation/upgrade to Windows 10. If you don't select the Customised option at this very stage, you can never stop further automatic Windows updates. The software team must have earned bonuses by coming up with such an insidious scheme to trap users.

[Øivind Tøien]

I looked though the optional windows updates last night and at least two of the later ones was supposed to "make it easier to upgrade to Windows 10" - No thanks!

[John Geerts]

Thanks Øivind and Bjørn.

I assumed I had turned-off the automatic updates, which wasn't the case apparently and changed this immediately into--  alway ask.  For me the strongest possible warning is '200 million already installed it' 

Discovered something else; not sure this works properly:

In case the Windows 10 notification has accidently been installed and prompting you to upgrade, or even worse, confronting you with a date and time that W10 will be installed, whether you like it or not.

In case it is NOT...

*Open task manager by ctrl+alt+del
*Open the tab 'processes'
*Find GWX.exe, right-click and pick 'open file location'
*In the file location, what should have an URL like C//.../Windows/System32, you will find FWX.exe and some little brothers. Check the date that it was installed.
*Open the Controlpanel and find the 'Installed Windows Updates' in the Maintainance section.
*Find the Windows update with the same date as the GWX.exe that you had found.
*Right-click this Windows update and remove it.
*The computer will tell you it may take some minutes and that it needs a restart
*After this restart, including a few minutes of windows configuring itself, GWX.exe and its brothers are gone.

[Jørgen Ramskov]

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/windows/how-stay-on-windows-7-8-forever-3614204/ seems to provide a guide and more.

[John Geerts]

Thanks Jørgen,  that link is very interesting and helpful.