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Re: Nikon's new 24-70/2.8, 24/1.8 and 200-500/5.6 are now official!
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2015, 12:04:32 »
But you can do that with the lens, VR on tripod mode and shoot of couple of images and one will be sharp :)

The 80-400 and similar lenses don't have tripod mode VR. You can of course turn on VR and it'll do something but rarely produces a result that is as good as the optics can produce with VR off (properly supported and/or at fast shutter speeds).

Also, turning VR on can lead to image shifting which is very annoying. In landscape photography it is common to stitch images and do exposure blending (e.g. when shooting into the sun) and an image that doesn't stay still from exposure to exposure is a nuisance.

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Re: Nikon's new 24-70/2.8, 24/1.8 and 200-500/5.6 are now official!
« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2015, 12:18:12 »
Why doesn't it have tripod VR ? Sounds strange I thought all long lenses had that now...

Then you need to crank up your ISO!

Anyway I don't shoot with VR so couldn't care less,,, Keep complaining then, and I'll stop making fun of you guys :)

But don't set you hopes up high for a heavy tripod foot design...

Also the length of the collar as such doesn't change anything for stability, the tolerances and design of the lens/foot interface makes the difference!
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Re: Nikon's new 24-70/2.8, 24/1.8 and 200-500/5.6 are now official!
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2015, 13:15:52 »
While the length of the foot as such might be less important if the material and design are sturdy, the width of the collar as it rotates around the lens casing cannot be too narrow.

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« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2015, 13:57:57 »
If the geometrical tolerances are tight then it doesn't need to be more than 10-15mm long - There is about 0 flex in the castings used...
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« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2015, 14:58:15 »
Problem is more the flexing inherent to the lens casing.

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Re: Nikon's new 24-70/2.8, 24/1.8 and 200-500/5.6 are now official!
« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2015, 15:09:55 »
If the geometrical tolerances are tight then it doesn't need to be more than 10-15mm long - There is about 0 flex in the castings used...

I would rather feel some kind of flimsiness from the "ring" part of the current collar, possibly due to the material.
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Re: Nikon's new 24-70/2.8, 24/1.8 and 200-500/5.6 are now official!
« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2015, 17:10:43 »
More business for Kirk and RRS.

I have the Kirk collar and foot for the 80-400VRII and it is rock solid.  It also provides a good carrying handle.  The only downside is that it is not possible to reverse park the hood on the lens.
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Re: Nikon's new 24-70/2.8, 24/1.8 and 200-500/5.6 are now official!
« Reply #67 on: August 09, 2015, 18:44:23 »
I have the Kirk collar and foot for the 80-400VRII and it is rock solid.  It also provides a good carrying handle.  The only downside is that it is not possible to reverse park the hood on the lens.

I'm wondering if Nikon changed the hood or Kirk changed the collar. I had this combination and the hood fit and locked in reverse position without problems.

Even with the Kirk collar (which does make the lens more stable on tripod) I still experienced blur with the 80-400 AF-S due to shutter and wind at focal lengths from 300mm to 400mm. Up to 200mm results were good, however. With some other lenses of similar focal lengths (up to 400mm) I have obtained consistent results using the same tripod and head though admittedly a more rigid tripod would be better for 400mm slow shutter speed work.

The 200-500mm has even greater angular magnification at 500mm and it is not clear how far a Kirk collar would have to extend its frontal support fork. I suppose the point where the transportation zoom lock is. To allow rotation to vertical orientation the frontal contact point could potentially scratch the "LOCK" markings, unless some kind of soft mounting (rollers?) is used. Here is an image showing the switch panel and transportation lock:

http://nothingwired.com/nikon-24-70mm-f2-8-vr-24mm-f1-8-200-500-f5-6-fx-lenses-announced/

I hope Kirk is able to figure it out for the 200-500mm. Still, I find it objectionable that every time Nikon brings out a new telephoto lens, one has to wait for third party tripod mount availability and then pay extra to get what should be supplied with the lens.

I agree that it would make things easier if the collar area on the lens barrel were wider. The 200-500 collar is very narrow compared to the length of the lens.

 

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Re: Nikon's new 24-70/2.8, 24/1.8 and 200-500/5.6 are now official!
« Reply #68 on: August 10, 2015, 02:38:41 »
The tragic aspect is that the first series of ED-IF telephoto lenses tended to have good to excellent tripod mounts ....

Indeed, I just recently acquired the early 400mm/5.6 ED (non-IF) version for my Df. It has a wide tripod socket/mount and is extremely stable  ;D
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