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Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« on: July 16, 2020, 16:46:59 »
Hello everyone,

just wanted to mention that these 'old' Nikon fisheye lenses:

6mm f/5.6 220°
7.5mm f/5.6
8mm f/8
10mm f/5.6 OP

work perfectly on a FTZ adapter connected to a Nikon Z mirrorless camera.

Watch this demonstration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obRsVXkUl2g

Here on this site I found the info that it is possible to use these lenses on a D800/D810.
It's not as straight forward as connecting them on a FTZ adapter, but they work perfectly well on my D800E.

So the information of Nikon that these lenses are incompatible is just plain wrong.
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2020, 18:31:20 »
I have used the non-retrofocus Fisheye Nikkors on DSLRs for more than a decade ....

Nikon has a very conservative approach thus will not recommend this practice as there is a risk of damaging the camera mirror. However, provided one is careful the use is unproblematic.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/132961550@N03/18779575810
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2020, 19:51:36 »
Does that small 6/5.6 really cost £30.000?
I thought it was the huge 6/2.8 that was in that price league. But the small one is much more portable so probably the one most people want to use in the field.
The 6 and 7.5 may be an interesting lens for the Z50.....and then use software to make it an ultra-wide angle lens?
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2020, 00:40:26 »
That would be a very expensive and awkward approach to getting a ultra-wide for the Z50 :)

The AF 10.5mm f/2.8 Fisheye will function on the Z50 via the FTZ (though, only manual focusing). This Fish is very sharp and likely miles ahead of older designs in terms of image quality. The AFS 8-15mm f/3.5-4.5 Fisheye zoom lens should not be overlooked either. Can do service on either DX or FX format cameras.
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2020, 01:43:07 »
When I had D2H, and Nikon Capture then employed de-fisheye function, I tried AF Fisheye 10.5/2.8.  The de-fished image was just marred by tons of CA and smearing peripherals (not just the corners).

Of course, the 4MP is not up to any stretching, but, considering the amount of necessary correction for the de-fishing,  A fisheye lens would not be a feasible alternative to a super-wideangle.
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2020, 02:23:55 »
I have used the 7.5mm f/5.6 on an FTZ on a Z6 and was very pleased with the results.
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2020, 08:23:39 »
Quote from: Birna Rørslett on July 17, 2020, 00:40:26
That would be a very expensive and awkward approach to getting a ultra-wide for the Z50 :)

The AF 10.5mm f/2.8 Fisheye will function on the Z50 via the FTZ (though, only manual focusing). This Fish is very sharp and likely miles ahead of older designs in terms of image quality. The AFS 8-15mm f/3.5-4.5 Fisheye zoom lens should not be overlooked either. Can do service on either DX or FX format cameras.

Yes! The "Minus Seven" is a phantastic lens on any camera...
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2020, 08:39:54 »
"Minus Seven"?    …..is that the 6mm?

The 8-15 is probably the lens to look for. I already have a Nikkor 12-24 DX so a 10.5 does not give that much more in terms of wide-angle. But Nikon sell a refurbished version of the 10.5 in the moment.
A 8-15 on a Z50 should give good results even at 8mm I assume.
Is NX-D able to de-fish the 8 - 15mm?
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2020, 09:43:37 »
I wonder if people know that there Nikon made a few 220 degree 17.3mm f4 fisheye lenses for MF. Check this out :)

https://lensfinder.com/listings/17-3mm-f-4-nikon-220-fisheye-nikkor-8k-cine-fatali-lens-vault
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2020, 09:50:58 »
Quote from: Toby on July 17, 2020, 09:43:37
I wonder if people know that there Nikon made a few 220 degree 17.3mm f4 fisheye lenses for MF. Check this out :)

https://lensfinder.com/listings/17-3mm-f-4-nikon-220-fisheye-nikkor-8k-cine-fatali-lens-vault


More than that, I have reported on it here on NG:

https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=7051.msg113533#msg113533
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2020, 10:45:33 »
Wow, Stanley Kubrick would have loved to use it as the red eye of Hal 9000!
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2020, 18:50:02 »
One of the reasons for me to buy a Nikon Z6 was to use my 10mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye more comfortably. I bought a second FTZ-adapter dedicated for tha use so I need to take less care when changing lenses.
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2020, 20:39:51 »
You could even put the 10 OP on a focusing helicoid ....
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2020, 22:36:47 »
Quote from: Birna Rørslett on July 17, 2020, 20:39:51
You could even put the 10 OP on a focusing helicoid ....
Good idea, currently I havent got any
Would love to have more closeup capability but K1 ring appears tobe too much already
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Re: Old Fisheye Nikkor lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2020, 23:05:14 »
Took me less than 10 minutes to cobble together the bits and pieces to make a focusing adapter for the 10 OP (and its sibling Fisheyes) on the Z system :)

Proof of concept. With the Z50 thus the image circle is clipped in this case. Handheld "wide open" at 1/13 sec and the front element is almost touching the book spines. The helicoid allows infinity focus apparently, but night time now so hard to verify. I might find a slightly shallower M42-Z adapter later to ensure a wider focusing range.

Components: K-3, 12-31mm helicoid M42, home-made M42-Z adapter (flat).

Interestingly, even at f/5.6 the 10mm focal length does not allow an extensive depth of field if one brings the lens close enough to the subject.
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