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Ian Watson

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Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« on: July 09, 2020, 21:31:01 »
Good afternoon all,

I am circling the idea of a Fuji X100V. The word is that Lightroom used to struggle with Fuji's RAW files. However, time has passed and Lightroom has been updated. I played with a couple of images that I downloaded from the internet. There doesn't seem to be any difference worthy of angst between Lightroom and Iridient Developer, which often received the nod as the best choice.

Would those more familiar with Fuji files please tell me what they think?

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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2020, 21:51:42 »
Lightroom user since 2007.  Fuji (16MP) user since 2013.
Color, contrast, and all the normal raw conversion parameters and adjustments work fine in Lightroom.
Lightroom (and presumably ACR) does just fine with Fuji X files with one exception: 
Certain files that depend for their impact on the accurate rendering of tiny, random, fractal-like details, such as thousands of small tree leaves on the ground, millions of sharply defined blades of grass in a wideangle shot, or sharply-rendered jagged rock surfaces will show the peculiar deficiency of the Adobe raw conversion, but only upon extreme enlargement
Repeat:  Only under extreme enlargement.  As in greater than an A2 size inkjet print.
For normal prints and web use, the odd detail rendering is not visible, period.
For the very few shots that may require it, the app Iridient Transformer X can be had for not much money.  In ITX, the Fuji raw file is converted to a DNG, then Lightroom can do the rest in the normal fashion. 
In general, the tiny detail issue is either not an issue, or less of an issue, in Iridient Developer, Photo Ninja, Capture One, and the built-in MacOS raw conversion, among others.
I have all of these, but use Lightroom for 99.9% of Fuji shots.
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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2020, 21:53:59 »
Removed post.  I accidentally quoted myself.
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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2020, 03:38:31 »
I won't argue with Keith, but Capture One Express Fujifilm can be had for free and decodes RAF fantastically with no hint of anything like "wormy artefacts".  I used X-E3 and X-T3 with the software and unsubscribed AdobeCC during that time.  X100V uses the same 26MP X-Trans CMOS 4 sensor.
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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2020, 03:42:04 »
I noticed that X100V shows some overheating issue.  That seems to occur only in a relatively extreme conditions and to be well manageable, though:

https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/global-news/2020/0511_3469872/
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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2020, 09:11:59 »
About a year ago I followed an official Fuji workshop around the GFX50s. All post production was treated with Lr, and I must say, no particular problem arose. The course was given by a sort of Fuji ambassador. So, I guess, from Fuji’s side, doing PP with Adobe should be OK.

Just my two cents.
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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2020, 10:38:20 »
The GFX50s had a Bayer sensor, not a X-Trans. The "problem" if any is processing X-Trans images with Adobe.

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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2020, 11:57:41 »
The GFX50s had a Bayer sensor, not a X-Trans. The "problem" if any is processing X-Trans images with Adobe.

I didn’t know about the Bayer sensor. I thought all Fuji were X-Trans.
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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2020, 13:14:47 »
I didn’t know about the Bayer sensor. I thought all Fuji were X-Trans.
That is a fully understandable misconception as Fuji promoted X-Trans a lot. Some of the cheaper XA/XT models and all medium format GFX models have Bayer sensors though.

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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2020, 16:32:36 »
Keith, thank you very much. That is just the insight I needed. A3 is plenty big enough for me and so there is no need to worry.

Akira, thank you for the suggestion. Capture One Express could be handy for the rare files that Keith mentioned. At that price, it is at least worth a look. (I already have Iridient Developer and Photo Ninja but why not?)

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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2020, 17:33:11 »
 I find that LR is definitely inferior to Capture One, Iridient and Photo Ninja for Fuji X-Trans files. It is rare to hear of someone who has moved from LR to one of those programs move back.

As you have various convertors, plus access to the free C1 Fuji program, I suggest you try various Raf files and see which convertor you prefer.
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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2020, 20:32:54 »
I won't argue with Keith, but Capture One Express Fujifilm can be had for free and decodes RAF fantastically with no hint of anything like "wormy artefacts".  I used X-E3 and X-T3 with the software and unsubscribed AdobeCC during that time.  X100V uses the same 26MP X-Trans CMOS 4 sensor.
Oops...I forgot about C-1 11/Fuji.  Yes, works fine and free.
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Re: Fuji RAW and Lightroom
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2020, 04:02:02 »
If I buy the Fuji then there is homework to be done  8)

Nevertheless, it is comforting to know that Lightroom, while perhaps not optimal, is not the disaster that some would have us believe.