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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #210 on: December 22, 2015, 03:23:01 »
The Df and the back focus issue. At least I see some back focus here.
I have to state that I did send my Df for servicing and it came back from suffering of mirror misalignment :)
I was suffering for almost two years (and i wonder why my photos are all blurry).

Curious to hear your thoughts, or to see other results.

By back focus, you mean his bow tie is sharper than his eye?  I agree. I double checked the focus point and it is right on his eye (to our right).  I often get great results, so I'm not sure if in this case it is back focus, him moving, me moving, low light missed focus. The lens is the kit 50 1.8 G, ISO 3200, f1.8, 1/100.  Is the Df known for back focus overall or in low light?  I have not fine adjusted this lens either.

Sending in for adjustments and maintenance intrigues me but also scares me. I'll look for other pictures from the night.

EDIT: Here is one more, I think the focus is on target on this one.


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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #211 on: December 22, 2015, 03:33:22 »
Reliable AF in  any light condition, not only the low one, is a combination of user skill and understanding, AF technology of camera and lens, and any possible misalignment of camera, lens, or user. No chain is stronger than the weakest link.

"Back (or front) focus" does occur, but perhaps far less frequent than most users tend to believe. One has to acknowledge that the camera's AF system has no understanding of "sharpness" in the way the human mind works, it can only maximise criteria of a given model. Thus, the camera cannot know that you intend only a small portion of the area covered by the AF sensor to be sharp ... so it maximises variance and puts the focus plane behind that small point because the entire AF-covered area according to its model now is "sharper". Just to take a common situation where we expect the camera to think like we do. It does not.

On a general yet related note, try working with AF *only* put to the AF-ON  button of your camera. I prefer AF-C mode, but this has more a bearing on how you operate the AF-ON control thus any AF mode will work in practice. This approach provides much more control over what happens when you compose then push the release button.

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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #212 on: January 12, 2016, 12:10:27 »
I noted somewhere in this long running thread a problem loose rubber coverings. What a camera repairman friend used and what was the smell of a new Nikon years ago was PLIOBOND...

http://0363d88.netsolhost.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Pliobond-info-sheet.pdf

It bonds to many materials and it can be pealed off where other contact cements don't allow this. It can also be reactivated with MEK so as not to thicken the layer of adhesive under the covering. Whether it's the right adhesive to use on modern DSLR I'm not sure but I would not what to use a more permanent adhesive that might interfere with a repair.

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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #213 on: January 14, 2016, 11:22:10 »
Thanks for the info and link!
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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #214 on: January 14, 2016, 11:26:08 »
For what it's worth: none of my Df bodies has had the "loose rubber" syndrome. I have owned and used Df cameras since 2013.

Knocks and bumps represent a much more grave threat to this camera ... I have killed one already ... Oh well, that's life as a photographer in a nutshell.

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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #215 on: January 14, 2016, 11:29:20 »
Loosening rubber is mostly due to heat in combination with a sideways tearing, I think...
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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #216 on: January 14, 2016, 11:35:36 »
On a general yet related note, try working with AF *only* put to the AF-ON  button of your camera. I prefer AF-C mode, but this has more a bearing on how you operate the AF-ON control thus any AF mode will work in practice. This approach provides much more control over what happens when you compose then push the release button.

I've followed that NG advice for a long time now (2010 I guess) and there's no way back. Indeed, it is extremely useful when AF-C is often needed. Minor rant : when framing vertically, it is difficult (not: impossible) to keep fingers on AF-ON and shutter release simultaneously when the buttons are at the bottom, i.e. thumb on AF-ON and index. Having the controlling hand at the top is more comfortable, but I hate to raise my arm that high, especially if shooting in streets.

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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #217 on: February 28, 2016, 07:01:31 »
First off, you folk have displayed some terrific photographs from your Dfs. I just joined up (after 8 years at the previous incarnation) and see an awful lot of familiar names - I missed you these last few months.

After 2¼ years my Df has proven to be a most faithful companion. Here are a few that came out well.

Frequently wrong, seldom in doubt

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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #218 on: February 28, 2016, 07:55:42 »
Really like #2 and ##5 and 6. The reflction shot took me a few moments to figure out and pictures that make me look twice is my favorites. The df sure is a nice walkaround camera :) Your motto "Frequently wrong, seldom in doubt" made me smile. It pretty much sums up what I learned during my lifetime ;D

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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #219 on: February 28, 2016, 08:23:07 »
Lorne, just like Børge I like the reflection with the red leafs a lot. But I also like the water the drop with the flowers in the background and the minimalist field with the cotton clouds floating above.
I hope that you will be frequently posting more images and not seldom :)
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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #220 on: February 28, 2016, 16:59:10 »
A little morsel of information re the 'read leaves'. They are in reality masses of the  minute floating aquatic fern Azolla. These small plants are free-floating, not rooted, and capable of very rapid proliferation in conducive habitats.

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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #221 on: March 04, 2016, 09:34:20 »
Thanks for the welcome over in the introductions thread.  Since returning, the Df Revival thread seemed the place to start.  It only seems fair to share some of shots taken using what I learned from that old thread.  A shot and full crop of a Tundra Swan. It was taken using my 80-400, but I have my manual lens bag pulled together finally, and will be shooting it more this spring.  Comments are welcome.  Thanks for the thread, it's been a good read so far.

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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #222 on: March 04, 2016, 09:59:58 »
First off, you folk have displayed some terrific photographs from your Dfs. I just joined up (after 8 years at the previous incarnation) and see an awful lot of familiar names - I missed you these last few months.

After 2¼ years my Df has proven to be a most faithful companion. Here are a few that came out well.

Yeh, yeh...nottin' less terrific shot presented by you here. I like them all.

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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #223 on: March 04, 2016, 10:10:45 »
I agree. Great shots.

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Re: The Df Revival
« Reply #224 on: March 04, 2016, 10:19:31 »
Lorne: Great to have you back! Continue to inspire us with shota loke these!
You are out there. You and your camera. You can shoot or not shoot as you please. Discover the world, Your world. Show it to us. Or we might never see it.

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