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Backup from dslr to external drive?
« on: March 29, 2018, 13:40:33 »
Backup directly from dslr to external drive without the in-between of laptop or pc?


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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2018, 13:49:10 »
You will need an OTG hard disk, that is a hard disk that can act as a host (the PC is a host).
It may have to be battery operated as the camera may not be able to power the HD.

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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2018, 14:12:39 »
I researched this a couple of years back for a 3 month trip which never happened.
The easiest option was a Hyper-Drive
https://www.amazon.co.uk/500-HyperDrive-COLORSPACE-UDMA3-built/dp/B079VSLT7D/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1522324706&sr=8-7&keywords=nexto+hard+drive
Several manufacturers , sizes and prices
I was not looking for one compatible with XQD cards

At then end of they day I decided a 13 inch laptop and small external drives was the way to go.
There are some ways to go directly camera to hard drive but they require something in between and cost goes up .
For short trips lots of SD cards (assuming camera has two slots and one is used for back up.
Wifi to a Cloud but , depending on location, can be slow  :(
I will watch your replies.
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Tom
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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2018, 15:13:47 »
That was the type of HD I was thinking of.
It should import from USB devices = camera if it has the USB correct profile. So it may be needed to check if the camera supports the right interface (mass storage), there is difference between fx. D800 and D500, not shure if it would work with a D500.

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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2018, 15:30:15 »
Bent, I was just thinking about copying the cards but if it does take from camera that would be cool.  I wanted it as back-up storage in case of lost cards.  The ability to view and delete was a bonus.  Between Power Pack, External HDs, Mobile, Laptop, camera gear I'm starting to feel like an electronics shop when I travel.
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Tom
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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2018, 15:40:52 »
Looking at some of the options they often seem complicated and costly, probably best to have a double card camera and or take a small laptop for backup, my intention was to take as little gear as possible using external harddrive as an extra backup leaving the files on the memorycards anyway.

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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2018, 16:24:32 »
Check out a device called gnarbox.
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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2018, 17:18:00 »
Looking at some of the options they often seem complicated and costly, probably best to have a double card camera and or take a small laptop for backup, my intention was to take as little gear as possible using external harddrive as an extra backup leaving the files on the memorycards anyway.
Fons, my decision also and the Laptop offers more usefulness.  I just rec'd this:

"Cana qxd card be used in any way or is there a model that has qxd slot?"
 

Amazon Customer answered:
 

"Unfortunately not - this device does not support XQD memory cards. The integrated card readers support maximum SDXC cards. And USB-XQD card readers connected via USB-OTG are also not recognized by the UDMA3. There are currently no such kind of really working and recommendable mobile photo backup devices on the market available, that support XQD cards. However, we expect in the near future (hopefully until the end of April - but this is certainly not sure) two first devices with XQD support. One with internal XQD reader integrated directly in the backup device (and additionally with XQD support by connected USB-XQD reader on the integrated USB-OTG host). End the second device with support for XQD cards via the USB-XQD reader connected to the USB-OTG port. We are seeing a great demand for mobile XQD backup devices, and we are now maintaining a list of prospects that we will inform by email or via Amazon as soon as these devices become available. If you are also interested in this information, please let us know… Your Digitalix24-Support"
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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2018, 19:56:57 »
I bet with a Raspberry Pi, an SSD (or an M.2) card, a card receptacle, some jumpers and a little screen, Oh, and some Python, a ten year old could do it.  But I ain't ten any more!   ;D

I looked into this many years ago, there was a small unit, I can't remember the name, back in 2005? Had a battery pack, a hard drive and Firewire interface, don't think there was a screen.

I got really excited when the iPad came along but the connectivity is so constrained to be practically useless, apart from selfies etc. the level of which holds no interest for me.

I used my Mac Book Pro for several years but the battery has now packed up and I don't see investing in another, (battery or MBP) because I so rarely used it.  My original idea was to be able to review my images while on location, giving me the option to re-shoot if any important images were substandard but by the end of the day I am usually so knackered I just drive home regardless, past caring!
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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2018, 20:47:08 »
The iPad can used if you use SD cards. I managed to make a post today only using my iPad.

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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2018, 21:25:43 »
So I can offload 2,000 NEF's from my D3, in a timely manner, after a day's shooting, into my iPad and review them before dark?

Somehow doubt it.

That's what I would like to be able to do but without spending a bunch of cash I can't see it happening.  Given it's just for fun that isn't likely.
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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2018, 22:21:25 »
I remember being able to do this over 10 years ago
My son bought an iRiver MP3 player that turned out to have enough o/s to connect directly to other devices & transfer files through an MP3 cable.

With a bit of experimenting, it proved possible to transfer images from my Minolta A2 to the iRiver which bought me some extra storage space on a holiday to Toscana. My son was not amused at not being able to take his full music collection on holiday though :(

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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2018, 22:44:26 »
My son was not amused at not being able to take his full music collection on holiday though :(

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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2018, 22:55:37 »
I used to use my HyperDrive for backing-up whie travelling — a compact and very useful device.

Unfortunately, it does not support XQD cards (which are what I mostly use now) and the last time that I checked with the manufacturer, they informed me that they were not planning to do so.

Now I just take my small (13-inch) MBPro with me and use card-readers and external USB hard-drives for back-up.

I do own an iPad but have mostly abandoned it because I find it limiting and have no love for iOS Apps..
I am unlikely to buy another iPad as my MBP is not that much bigger and is much more capable.

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Re: Backup from dslr to external drive?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2018, 23:15:04 »
I still have my Hyperdrive Colorspace that I bought for Afrika travel 10 years ago, backing up about 1000 image files per day, and used on a few field trips since then. However there are many years since I brought it on travel as I have been carrying a computer and backup disks. I just checked and it will copy files from a 16GB Sandisk Extreme Pro card, but the transfer speed is pretty abysmal. CF cards were considerably faster with this device.
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