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Mongo

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The Old Masters Series
« on: March 11, 2018, 07:39:30 »
Stuck with having to take these images at highish ISO and in deep shadow under the tree. Still, opportunity not to be a missed.

Two things Mongo wants to say about this series:-

1. due to the overall effect in the circumstances, Mongo saw in the proofs a dark and warmer mood and trend and thus a good opportunity, to try and be creative in the theme of the “old masters” paintings. That is why he has tried (but perhaps not succeeded ) to produce them in that style. It was fun trying nonetheless.

2.We are often taken by the seeming need to take “Wildlife” images as accurately as possible as if for a museum reference source and we can easily fall into that thought pattern. However, Mongo would like to think we are first photographers; no matter what our specific interests in photography may be. As such, we would give thought to producing something with photographic creativity if circumstances present themselves from time to time. So, there should be no sin in this.

D810 and 200-500mm @ 500mm

#1 - the king in his arched throne room
#2 - the king adjusting his throne lest he fall off
#3 - even the king has to scratch an irritating itch
#4 - and even the king has to look back on his past deed now and then

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Re: The Old Masters Series
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2018, 08:12:31 »
You are right.  Great shots.  Like especially the 2nd one. Colour and pose.

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Re: The Old Masters Series
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2018, 09:36:04 »
A Cormorant species? Good to see nice pictures with the 200-500.

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Re: The Old Masters Series
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2018, 10:06:50 »
You are right.  Great shots.  Like especially the 2nd one. Colour and pose.
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Very painting like in #1

Mongo

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Re: The Old Masters Series
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2018, 10:48:09 »
thanks all for your comments. glad you liked the images.

Fons this is a "darter" . Not sure if it is from the cormorant family. Mongo has watched them for hours spear through small  fish with their very sharp dart-like beak under water. Then, surface to flick the fish off their beak into the air to catch it with an open mouth as it falls. fascinating and elegant water bird.

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Re: The Old Masters Series
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2018, 13:11:39 »
To me, these look rather like environmental portraits than the wildlife photography.  Or, I feel as if I'm watching a scene of a movie.  The lighting creates the pleasant and somewhat majestic atmosphere.
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Re: The Old Masters Series
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2018, 13:30:24 »
Mongo:

I like both your premise and the results.  As a fairly serious bird photographer, I struggle with the technical vs. artistic side balance at times.  It is one of the reasons I like to post here, as this group has a broader perspective than the pure bird sites. 

I love the color palette here, soft light, interesting poses.

Did you do anything special in post to play up your artistic vision?  I must admit to letting a little vignette sneak into some of my images at times.

Cheers

Randy

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Re: The Old Masters Series
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2018, 13:44:48 »
Great series ! I agree that the light and the warm colors makes for for some sort of Flemish painting  ::)
My preference would go for #2  ;)
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Re: The Old Masters Series
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2018, 02:31:28 »
thank you Akira,  Jacques and Randy

Mongo:

I like both your premise and the results.  As a fairly serious bird photographer, I struggle with the technical vs. artistic side balance at times.  It is one of the reasons I like to post here, as this group has a broader perspective than the pure bird sites. 

I love the color palette here, soft light, interesting poses.

Did you do anything special in post to play up your artistic vision?  I must admit to letting a little vignette sneak into some of my images at times.

Cheers

Randy

Randy,

yes, bird photographers like yourself (and Mongo for a lot of his time) try to get the most detailed, colourful, sharpest examples of birds. Would not worry too much Randy because you will find that even then, you will subconsciously, instinctively or even just consciously try to incorporate many of your photography ideals. Whether at the time of taking the image you will try to get the subject better framed if possible, wait or move slightly to get better light on the subject, vary the aperture for that background etc. You will also find that what you cannot achieve in the field  in the regard, you will have a little voice in your head later during post processing telling you to incorporate whatever photographic ideals, rules and even personal artistic preferences that are possible to incorporate in PP. Our photography instincts are probably working most, if not, all the time. It is whether or not you get that rare photo situation/opportunity that lets you really lash out with it.

Mongo’s story with these images is just an extreme version and a fluke which he took advantage of at the time. He is simply urging others to be alert and open to these possibilities when and if they present themselves in more obvious ways that just beg you to try doing something with it that just has a lot more of you in it.

To answer your question, Mongo did a few small things to the images because, in this case, the RAW files were already strongly hinting in the direction Mongo finally took them. This was not a direction Mongo had headed off to achieve but was persuaded to try after looking at the RAW files. They were darkish, fairly saturated because of that, somberish in mood, the light was very diffused and soft from the shade of the tree, the background was reasonably “sleepy” and out of focus and so on.

Most of the PP involved some slight colour adjustment to water down a heavier colour cast (yellow in this case), then some selective lightening and darkening of portions of the image using vignetting . The vignette Mongo uses is not the usual one found as a tool on photoshop and other software. It is one which Mongo learned from a Peter Eastway article many years ago. It uses the lasso tool with highish pixel count (assuming you are working on a largish file) in ever expanding circles or shapes in combination with whatever tool you like to darken e.g. curves, levels, brightness/contrast, saturation etc. Mongo has found this technique gives you infinite control, merges better and generally far superior to other methods. Some selective sharpening on the subject only.

While on the subject of vignette, many frown upon it. Mongo is not at all sure why. It is a perfectly legitimate and useful process used in appropriate ways and in appropriate cases.