Nikon D500 or Fuji XT2

[John Geerts]

2) In order to use my adapted Nikkor lenses, I will have to set the camera to "shoot without lens" just like a Sony NEX.

Plus with an adapter all the advantages with 'size' are gone.  I notice that with the Panasonic GF1.  And it makes an 'ugly' set-up. But that's just personal aesthetics 

[Frank Fremerey]

D500, ISO 20.000. Art repro, no added light in a dark crypta of the church, very bad spectral distribution light source, and still:

http://zentralkraft.com/smalledit_KO7_4732_.JPG

(looks like 400 ASA Fujichrome, no, much better!)

PS: Developed in NXD, setting (NR=0%):

[the solitaire]

D500, ISO 20.000. Art repro, no added light in a dark crypta of the church, very bad spectral distribution light source, and still:

http://zentralkraft.com/smalledit_KO7_4732_.JPG

(looks like 400 ASA Fujichrome, no, much better!)

PS: Developed in NXD, setting (NR=0%):

That is more then just decent. That's pretty darn impressive in my book!

[the solitaire]

Plus with an adapter all the advantages with 'size' are gone.  I notice that with the Panasonic GF1.  And it makes an 'ugly' set-up. But that's just personal aesthetics 

John, I thought long and hard on that bit, and the thing that bothers me most os losing the Aperture linkage. Other then that, the size of the Fuji with ARCA plate and a small grip is very close to that of a Nikon F3. A bit narrower still. With that, I do gain a considerable amount of bag space compared to one of the modern ergonomic dSLR Nikons. Even if the register distance of the camera with adapter does not differ from that of a Nikon solution, the X-T2 would be an overall smaller setup, and with a Metabones F to X adapter, it doesn't look too bad.

Another benefit would be that I could add a tilt/shift adapter from Nikon F to Fuji X and add that functionality to all my Nikon lenses. So other then the silly "shoot without lens" tag in the menu, it's not as bad as I initially thought it might be

[John Geerts]

Thanks for the explanation, Buddy !

That's pretty impressive, Frank.

[Frank Fremerey]

That is more then just decent. That's pretty darn impressive in my book!

The D500 pushes the envelope in many respects. If I imagine her with FX chip in BSI technology, she will sure produce similar results at ISO100.000 like the D5 does.

ISO 100 >>> ISO 1.000 (3 stops)
ISO 1.000 >>> ISO 10.000 (3 stops)
ISO 10.000 >>> ISO 100.000 (3 stops)

[Bjørn Rørslett]

ISO 100 > 200 (+1) > 400(+2) > 800(+3) > 1600(+4) > 3200(+5) > 6400 (+6) > 12800(+7) > 25600 (+8) > 51200(+9) > 102400(+10)

Thus even more impressive were a D500 to span that entire range.

[David H. Hartman]

Frank,

I see a color color moiré in your D500 sample that I'm sure could be removed in CaptureNX-D's Camera and Lens Corrections pallet. I see this in my D800 files at a lower ISO. The C&LC pallet is bottom, second to left in the Edit section on the right side. I think if you try it your high ISO sample with be even more impressive. I'm jealous.

Dave

[Frank Fremerey]

Frank, I see a color color moiré in your D500 sample that I'm sure could be removed in CaptureNX-D's Camera and Lens Corrections pallet. I see this in my D800 files at a lower ISO. The C&LC pallet is bottom, second to left in the Edit section on the right side. I think if you try it your high ISO sample with be even more impressive. I'm jealous. Dave

Thank you very much, Dave, for the hint. In the beginning it was very difficult for me to do proper edits of the D500 files. I come from the relatively soft D600 files which can bear a lot of abuse in post and the D3 files which are relatively low res anyway. The Pixel Density of the D500 would be roughly 45 Megapixels on FX.

So to retain the super rich details I can get from the D500 with good light, good glass and good technique, I have to apply all contrast and sharpening very sensitively.

If I run in fast mode editing a lot of pictures in a short time, I sometimes tend to not zoom into 100% but edit for the impression I see in the downsampled, resulting in oversharpend pics with too much contrast.

The D600 files at high ISO are worse than the D500 files!

At low ISO I still like the tonality of the D600 better esp when it comes to flowers and human skin

[David H. Hartman]

Frank,

The color moiré control is not noise control. I don't know how it works. I suggest simply trying it set to, low or medium v. off to see if there are any negative effects to using it.

Myself I'm more accepting of noise than mush and banding. In days of old they used to say, "Grain is an armature obsession." I think that might be because enthusiast were more likely to shoot 35mm only where professional would frequently shoot at least 6x6 or 6x7. Today I'm not as bothered by noise as other image defects.

Although I prefer full frame I'd have a fair amount of use for a D500 and wish I could afford one.

Dave Hartman

[Bill De Jager]

Impressive, Frank!

ISO 100 > 200 (+1) > 400(+2) > 800(+3) > 1600(+4) > 3200(+5) > 6400 (+6) > 12800(+7) > 25600 (+8) > 51200(+9) > 102400(+10)

Thus even more impressive were a D500 to span that entire range.

Easy shorthand for folks to remember: 2¹⁰ = 1024 ~ 10³.  This comes in handy for quickly considering large dynamic ranges, large changes in exposure settings, or strong ND filters.  For instance, 8 stops slower than 1/1000 sec. would be down to 1 sec. (down 10 stops) then back up two stops to 1/4 second.

[richardHaw]

the D7500 is a very capable contender by the way. sorry if I have to mention this 

[the solitaire]

the D7500 is a very capable contender by the way. sorry if I have to mention this 

After chipping all my manual focus Nikkors it would be. Up until there, I need my non-CPU registry and the Ai feeler

[Frank Fremerey]

the D7500 is a very capable contender by the way. sorry if I have to mention this 

The modern AF is missing. It is a world away from anything Nikon built before, at least with most of my lenses

[Frank Fremerey]

Dave: the D500 is sub 2000 Dollars now in new. When I was short on money as an amateur I always bought used which should lower asking price even more.