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10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« on: January 19, 2017, 22:33:11 »

Officially the 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye is not compatible with modern camera. Due to Bjørn`s research we know that it is indeed usable on cameras with mirror up function, as the mirror returns to up position when there is an obstacle detected. Also should work with live view.

Are there any Nikon digital bodies where this approach is known not to work?
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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2017, 22:45:57 »
There could be restraints with a DX body if it has the small mirror/mirror-box, but just guessing,,,
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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2017, 22:49:53 »
Not to my knowledge. At least for DX or FX cameras. My 10 OP has worked with them all. I prefer to use a relay system for the DX models though so the image is circular and not cut top and bottom.

Using the 10 OP on the CX format models with the FT-1 is prevented by the shape of the long protruding rear end of the lens. Other mirrorless ranges work with any run-of-the-mill 'F' adapter.

it might be relevant to mention that the 10 OP is one of the rarer and esoteric Nikkors and probably not much more than around 700 units were made.

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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2017, 22:57:08 »
An example with the Nikon D3S and the 10 OP.

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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2017, 23:01:55 »
Thanks for the answers and the pic
Got my sample yesterday. Quickly tried it on the D700 where it worked as expected, the Mirror box of the D200 appears to be rather narrow so i dont wanted to be uncautious, not sure whether this will work need to be less tired, will try other bodies later.
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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2017, 23:02:51 »
Bjørn, does the rear element protrude from the mount of the adapter when you attach it onto, say, an F to m4/3 adapter?
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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2017, 23:06:32 »
Congratulations, this is a unique lens so treat it carefully. The front element is quite soft and needs extra attention.

Pulled an archive picture to show a non-retrofocus fisheye on a DX camera. This is the 7.5 mm f/5.6 on a D40x, but these old lenses have almost identical rear protrusions.

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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2017, 23:10:34 »
Bjørn, does the rear element protrude from the mount of the adapter when you attach it onto, say, an F to m4/3 adapter?

Yes and no. Perhaps 1-2 mm at most reach beyond the mounting flange of the m4/3 mount. No problem attaching the lens + F adapter to any m473 camera though.

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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2017, 23:11:34 »
Akira, its protruding 2,8 cm wihtout adapter if that is helpful
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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2017, 23:16:17 »
Akira, its protruding 2,8 cm wihtout adapter if that is helpful

See my earlier answer to Akira. These old lenses mount trouble-free on any m4/3. Not tested on Sony or Fuji, but probably they behave in a similar manner.

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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2017, 23:20:44 »
Wolfgang, to alleviate your fears about the 10 OP mounting on the D200, here is the 7.5 on the same camera. The image circle will  be cut top and bottom, otherwise no issue.

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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2017, 23:24:44 »
Bjørn and Wolfgang, thanks for the info on the protrusion!  Wolfgang, hope you enjoy this unique lens and perhaps share some results here!
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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2017, 23:29:25 »
Bjørn and Wolfgang, thanks for the info on the protrusion!  Wolfgang, hope you enjoy this unique lens and perhaps share some results here!
thanks Akira for this wonderful picture will not achieve similar results soon.
I will enjoy it, hope I will have shooting opportunity on weekend
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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2017, 00:18:11 »
In some ways, the 10 OP is more "pictorial" than the remainder of the Fisheye crowd, due to its unique orthographic projection. This renders the centre of the frame much larger than the other fisheyes. It furthermore projects a somewhat smaller image circle around 21.6 mm compared to the more normal 23 mm of the 7.5/5.6 and 8/2.8.

An example is given below; my rear deck in winter with 7.5 mm f/5.6 and 10 OP , respectively, on a D3S. Images were captured with a hand-held camera thus registration is not perfect between the frames, but one gets the general idea of their behaviour.

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Re: 10 mm f/5,6 OP-Fisheye
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2017, 00:25:29 »
Out of curiosity Wolfgang, may I ask for the serial number of your lens? they are as stated before rare optics and I guess filling any gap in the serials would be appreciated by Roland Vink et al.