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Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« on: August 17, 2016, 12:27:18 »
Cheap and Cheerful.....the new Nikon D3400

When you need a camera to forget in the car, go for a walkabout, ditch in the bottom of a bag, shrink wrap it and go to the beach and sand.......and simply take photos......

Slap a proper prime on the 24meg sensor and you will be happy as Larry.
Slap the new 70/300 and you will be laughing.

I use low end and high end cameras....it is the in betweens which I dislike.

Now I can have a choice using my Canon 100D and the new Nikon D3400.

It is the sleeper cameras which are most fun. A D3400 with a 58G when you need to go incognito in certain environments...... it is the equivalent of a cupcake with tons of cream on top ;)

The secret is in the sauce= Lens + Processing (as long as you shoot flat and process from flat).

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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2016, 12:42:33 »
It even has a built-in Instruction Guide in case you haven't used a DSLR before .... And the means of adding instantaneously your images to the already overflowing mess of forgettable pictures on the 'net. I wonder which camera will be the first to offer a feature by which the picture is uploaded, then automatically deleted in camera?

Agree this is the kind of camera to chuck in the booth of the car until the occasion for which it is needed. Takes same batteries as the D3200 (UV camera), D5300 (my main IR body) and the Df (work horse), by the way.

A pentamirror finder means it might not work well with a Noct, though :D

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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2016, 13:31:28 »
It is good that D3400 still make wifi function at all usable.  The wifi function of D750 is virtually abandoned...
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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2016, 15:16:59 »
I wonder which camera will be the first to offer a feature by which the picture is uploaded, then automatically deleted in camera?

LMAO ;)

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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2016, 16:22:40 »
Nice little camera

I do not understand the release of 2 new versions of the 18-55, and 2 new 70-300
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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2016, 16:49:26 »
I wonder which camera will be the first to offer a feature by which the picture is uploaded, then automatically deleted in camera?

same with "Almass". i need this :o :o :o

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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2016, 16:50:45 »
In some areas, the camera has to be as affordable as possible.  Non-VR versions would be for that market?
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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2016, 17:12:24 »
In some areas, the camera has to be as affordable as possible.  Non-VR versions would be for that market?
Absolutelly , I'm still puzzle about why develop a new version ?
A D40 I purcahsed in 2009 came a 18-55 zoom with no VR
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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2016, 17:19:54 »
AF-P is for better LV/video AF, and for compatibility with future mirrorless cameras.

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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2016, 17:38:08 »
.... And the means of adding instantaneously your images to the already overflowing mess of forgettable pictures on the 'net. I wonder which camera will be the first to offer a feature by which the picture is uploaded, then automatically deleted in camera?
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Even better! How about a camera that deletes the images in camera prior to them being added to the mess of forgettable images(esp selfies!) already infesting the net! :p
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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2016, 18:14:04 »
Even better! How about a camera that deletes the images in camera prior to them being added to the mess of forgettable images(esp selfies!) already infesting the net! :p

Or an artificially intelligent camera that compares the image to "good" pics online and deletes it automagically if it is not "good enough".

The user sets his qualification level in camera from

"beginner" = 1 or 2 out of 10 (all 0 value shots are deleted)
to
"professional" = 8 to 10 out of 10 (all 7 value and below are deleted)

Ultimate gamification!

"Professional" saves tons of card space.
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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2016, 18:30:19 »
Absolutelly , I'm still puzzle about why develop a new version ?
A D40 I purcahsed in 2009 came a 18-55 zoom with no VR

I used that very combo, too.  Great combo.  But the very first VR version didn't work as well with D7000 as the D40/non-VR combo.  The sensor of higher resolution would require better optics, both in terms of resolving power and field flatness.
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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2016, 20:15:43 »
Or an artificially intelligent camera that compares the image to "good" pics online and deletes it automagically if it is not "good enough".

The user sets his qualification level in camera from

"beginner" = 1 or 2 out of 10 (all 0 value shots are deleted)
to
"professional" = 8 to 10 out of 10 (all 7 value and below are deleted)

Ultimate gamification!

"Professional" saves tons of card space.

It would make equipment cheaper too.  Aim at a pond with the kit lens, and it automatically provides a wide angle shot, mountain range in background, a rocky shore, a piece of driftwood in the cove, and HDR without having to provide it in the camera.  For the upscale model they'll add a button on the back:  Insert a-sun; b- moon; c- dramatic cloud.


e.t.a. I seem to have messed up the quotes....

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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2016, 22:54:04 »
Nice little camera

I do not understand the release of 2 new versions of the 18-55, and 2 new 70-300
I agree. The 18-55 G VR II (with collapsible body) was introduced only in early 2014, it's hardly an old lens and would have been designed for the current crop or 24MP DX cameras. To see yet another 18-55 zoom so quickly is strange. One difference is that the new lens is IF. The previous versions were two-group zooms where focus is achieved by moving the entire front group. The new IF focusing is probably required for the new stepper AF motor. 55mm filter ... does not match any other Nikon F-mount lens.

I wonder if the AF-P 70-300/4.5-6.3 is a replacement for the AF-S 55-300/4.5-5.6 VR? The new lens has similar specification, slightly less zoom range at the wide end, which probably is not important to most users, and 1/3 stop slower at the telephoto end. Also full-time manual focus over-ride which is missing on the older lens. I wonder how popular the non-VR version will be, with this sort of long slow lens really needs image stabilisation unless lighting is very good. 58mm filter ... does not match the  new AF-P 18-55 :o

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Re: Nikon D3400 - The Cupcake camera
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2016, 01:50:45 »
The old 55-300 uses a 58 mm. filter though, so that's not changed. 

I did not notice whether the new 70-300 has a rotating front element.  That's one thing I find very irritating in the older low-end DX lenses, including the 55-300. 

Edit to add:  I see from looking a bit further that this lens is IF, which pretty much guarantees that the front element does not turn.  At least that's something.