Author Topic: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S  (Read 6910 times)

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DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« on: August 06, 2016, 12:07:52 »
Hi,

I am thinking about investing into some wide angle lenses for D500 and D300S. I am interested in hearing about the 3rd party lenses as well as any Nikon lenses that are good to excellent in this department. At a glance Nikon seems lacking in terms of offers in the wide to ultra wide options for DX. Is there any 3rd party lenses that are as good as Nikon?

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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2016, 13:44:53 »
I hear wonders about the Nikkor 10-24 Zoom for DX
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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2016, 14:17:46 »
Ok. May look into that. :)

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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2016, 14:50:56 »
Try Sigma 18-35/1.8 zoom. Big and heavy one, but 3-in-1, and even wide open, extremely sharp.  LZ

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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2016, 15:03:41 »
Wide-angle for DX is a problematic area, and is not likely to improve, as far as I can see.  The fact is that as DX is the natural home of the mainly long-lens user, FX is the natural home of the mainly wide-angle user.  There are relatively small gains from the smaller format in the wide-angle range because when the mount size and the flange focal distance are the same lens complexity scales with actual focal length.  So the DX 12-24 f/4 is $1100 and the DX 10-24 f/3.5-4.5 is $900, while the FX 18-35 f/3.5-4.5 is $750 and the FX 20mm f/1.8 is $800.   

The Nikon 10-24 and 12-24 zooms are good but not great, relatively bulky, and expensive new (although the 12-24 is a bargain used - which tells you how many people bought it and then sold it).  There is not much to choose between the 10-24 and the 12-24 (other than the extra 2mm).

The Tokina 12-28 is cheaper, about the same size, and also good but not great.  The Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 and the newer 11-20/2.8 are also good.  Tokina build quality is excellent - the Tokinas are the clear value for money choice.   

If 24mm equivalent is wide enough the Nikon 16-80 is a good 16/2.8. 

My two cents worth is that the choice among the zooms depends on how you photograph.  If you like 35mm as a walk-around focal length the 12-24 can be a one lens kit - I often use it that way in cities (the Tokina 12-28 gives you even more flexibility).  If you are carrying the 16-80 the Tokina 11-16 or 11-20 would be the obvious complement. 

I have no experience with the third party primes, except for a brief test of the Zeiss 15mm f/2.8, which seemed to be excellent but is outside my budget. 

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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2016, 15:25:33 »
If you want DX or APS-C wide angle primes, you need to look at Fuji X mirrorless. They are the only ones who have actually developed a nice line of APS-C lenses. Else it's full frame; Canon (DSLR), Nikon (DSLR) or Sony (mirrorless), if you want wide angle primes. There is of course Leica M in the full frame world, but that's super-expensive.

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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2016, 16:21:39 »
My point is that wide angle shooting on DX is tripod work between f=8 and f=16.

In this range most lenses are good enough for very decent results after Post Production.

A very good source of footage for any specific Nikkor is the Nikkor group on flickr. You sort all shots by lens tag
from the group page and get a lot of shots by different photographers with different settings. Judge for yourself.

On my D70 I was very happy with the 12-24 Tokina (500€ new at the time). Very solid built. Very decent IQ.

I sold a lot of Architecture shots taken with this combination.
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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2016, 17:15:29 »
a long time ago, the tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 is considered to be the best in it's class :o :o :o
it is an impressive lens ::)

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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2016, 17:42:43 »
Jens, I have been using the 17-35/2,8 AF-S for about a decade now. Both DX and FX formats. Its image quality is difficult to beat even with primes.
If you're looking for DX only, I suppose the 12-24 is the way to go...
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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2016, 21:10:05 »
I was completely happy with the Nikon 12-24 DX and the 17-55 DX, on DX when DX was 10 and then 12 megapixels. 
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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2016, 22:53:00 »
tokina 11-16
sharp!! excellent build

very contrasty
greenish colors
high chromatic aberration
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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2016, 23:08:43 »
Wow lot of stuff to sort through here.  :P

Thanks guys.

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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2016, 00:58:57 »
Hi, Jens, the wideangles are indeed one of issues of Nikon DX format.  I often hear about the sample variation of Tokina lenses.  If you need primes and can live without AF, you may want to look at Samyang who offers 10/2.8, 16/2.0 as well as 8/3.5 fisheye for Nikon F mount DX format.  That said, I also hear about the sample variation of Samyang.  My only experience with Samyang was 7.5/3.5 fisheye for m4/3 which was an excellent sample.  The F mount Samyang lenses have chips and electric contacts.
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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2016, 06:42:08 »
I've certainly been impressed by the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8.  Another choice that I've only read about is the Tokina 14-20 f/2.  So far it's had good reviews.  The wide maximum aperture would be very useful in dim light, as is the case with the Sigma.

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Re: DX wide lenses for D500 + D300S
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2016, 11:43:58 »
I agree with Jakov on the AF-S 17-35/2.8  Very useful for both DX and FX.