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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #165 on: January 05, 2018, 11:14:13 »
Klaus, can you please explain to me why #1 has clearly defined circular highlight rendition, despite being well beyond the plane of focus, this troubles me, visually and because I don't understand it.  The remaining images have much more natural and pleasingly smooth transition of tones even with moderately colour and saturation contrasty edges despite the background being closer to  the plane of focus.  Although I do notice some other higher luminance contrast out of focus edges seem more clearly defined than I might have expected.

The effect in last three images are just what I am hoping for,  sharp clear contrasty subject and the rest a nice, smoothly diminishing background with no visually distracting areas.

It's as though the greater the edge contrast, the greater the acuity, irrespective of distance from the plane of focus.  In #2, just above the central top red leaf are some fonds or bunch of small branches, they seem to be much sharper than might be expected, given their neighbours are nicely blurred.  I guess they could receive attention in Photoshop, but...

Where the luminance edge contrast is low, the bokeh is lovely, when the luminance edge contrast is high the bokeh isn't as nice.

Does this edge sharpness and the sharp circular highlights of out of focus objects vary with lens type?  The circular highlights seem reminiscent of the circular doughnuts of OOF background highlights from reflex telephoto lenses.

I guess with careful choice of camera angle and subject this may be able to be overcome.  However, sometimes that isn't possible in the field, finding the subject in nice condition and accessible is often challenge enough, getting a good angle can be impossible.
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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #166 on: January 06, 2018, 17:12:04 »
Robert, #1 is several meters away (head of a public fountain it is), while all the others shots are close focus! Naturally, the lens behaves very differently then.

Here that location shot with a very different (non projection) lens:

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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #167 on: January 11, 2018, 10:21:51 »
Spring is here - seen by a mod. MEOPTA f1.0/50mm













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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #168 on: January 11, 2018, 14:19:29 »
Very good as usual but that first shot is impressive  :o

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« Reply #169 on: January 11, 2018, 18:16:59 »
The MEOPTA seems to work very nicely on m4/3 in terms of size, speed, focal length and the possible shooting distance.
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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #170 on: January 11, 2018, 21:30:37 »
Very good as usual but that first shot is impressive  :o

Thanks, I usually work close-up, this was a mere test shot for infinity...

The MEOPTA seems to work very nicely on m4/3 in terms of size, speed, focal length and the possible shooting distance.

It was a bit of a risk, it needed to be mechanically worked over to allow for infinity focusing, but the surgery went well.
Now it focuses from quite close-up (approx 0.15 meters) to infinity on my Panasonic GH4. But admittedly working with
a f1.0 lens at close-up is a challenge...
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« Reply #171 on: January 11, 2018, 21:50:30 »
It was a bit of a risk, it needed to be mechanically worked over to allow for infinity focusing, but the surgery went well.
Now it focuses from quite close-up (approx 0.15 meters) to infinity on my Panasonic GH4. But admittedly working with
a f1.0 lens at close-up is a challenge...

Sure, CRT Nikkor is already challenging enough for the closeups!
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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #172 on: January 30, 2018, 23:39:48 »
Russian KMZ OKC1-76-1 76mm f2 experimental prototype projection lens









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« Reply #173 on: January 31, 2018, 00:24:02 »
The third one is lovely!  The bokeh circles are beautiful.
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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #174 on: January 31, 2018, 10:29:42 »
The third one is lovely!  The bokeh circles are beautiful.

Thank you, it does this very well, but also a very smooth and creamy BG without any.

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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #175 on: January 31, 2018, 17:32:03 »
The soft light in the first image is lovely.

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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #176 on: February 03, 2018, 16:23:02 »
Zeiss Ikon ERNOSTAR f1.8 100mm projection lens







and some close ups...







Should make for a nice portrait lens, pleasant bokeh it has, not too sharp. (Ernostar = pre Sonnar lens design)
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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #177 on: February 07, 2018, 15:02:15 »
Walked to the park with the Zeiss Ikon ERNOSTAR f1.8 100mm









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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #178 on: February 15, 2018, 12:18:33 »
Took an old Meopta 1.4/100mm projection lens for a walk on my Panasonic GH4 to a friends' flower + deco shop...





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Re: Projection lenses
« Reply #179 on: March 12, 2018, 11:53:11 »
old Petzval projection lens







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