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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #90 on: April 30, 2016, 19:13:04 »
I am just struggeling with the USB3-transfer. Need to get a Card reader for the XQD fast.

This is not even USB2 Speed! My Samsung SD-Card read much faster...

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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #92 on: April 30, 2016, 21:18:05 »
the color rendition is superb and the AF capability exceeds my AF technique by far. Yet what I see motivates me a lot!
Tomorrow I will take this cam on full Auto AF to a JOB!
Ergonomics are very much D810 like.
A dependable tool for a low price.
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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #93 on: April 30, 2016, 21:25:09 »
and a crop:

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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #94 on: April 30, 2016, 21:33:43 »
another one of a "seize the moment"-shot
and more ... color rendition ... very difficult to reach the JPEG quality with a RAW conversion ... lots of potential for better RAW converters here.
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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #95 on: April 30, 2016, 22:13:49 »
I can't imagine what kind of activity you have shot in the first picture. Not very common on my latitudes. They seem to be combining two totally incompatible things ;) The pictures are great though. I considered buying one last friday, but reason suddenly struck down on me rather unexpectedly. I`m actually quite pleased with my current gear, so I guess there must be something wrong. Maybe I need to get my head examined :o I dont understand why Bjørn haven't received his yet, because my local pusher had two of them and already sold nine. Congratulation with your new camera Frank!

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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #96 on: April 30, 2016, 23:38:44 »
The  camera was originally thought as a recreational tool.

Now it seems to be a real workhorse the usability of which extends far beyond birding.

The girls jump on gummi balls. I wanted to capture the moment in which both of them are in the air
and manage to synchronize their dancing ropes. Difficult normally but not with a burst from the D500.

she afs and releases in next to no time.

RAW conversion is still an issue. I will need a while to get better results.
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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #97 on: April 30, 2016, 23:45:26 »
Doesnt Nikon's own software support the NEF files? It always seem to give the best results.

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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #98 on: April 30, 2016, 23:49:09 »
Capture NX-D is not my cup of tea. Inflexible. Underfeatured.
I loved NX-2 but it is gone together with its programmers.

Photo Ninja 1.3.3c is very usable already.

I have yet to create my own profiles.

The ooc JPEGs are very good though.
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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #99 on: May 01, 2016, 00:58:53 »
Capture NX-D is not my cup of tea. Inflexible. Underfeatured.
I loved NX-2 but it is gone together with its programmers.
Frank,
I used NX-2 as the only tool for post processing for years. Loved it like you.
Until Jan 2016 - as I had only "old" cameras which were supported by NX-2.

With recent camera acquistions this year, there was the need to move forward, not backward.
After much "resistance", I gave NX-D a try - and to much my surprise, I could do all the things with NX-D I did with NX-2.
Of course the menu structure was different, but after one evening, familiarity is now here as well.
A few things are even easier and more obvious than with NX-2 - so the pain is not really there.

Nice that Nikon didn't forget to support all the older D-SLRs in NX-D, so there is no need to use NX-2 for the older cameras.

You can of course use all the other RAW converters you like, but if you don't want to do all the profiling and second-guessing where a certain artefact is coming from, you might keep NX-D as your second RAW converter. At least you can be re-assured that the camera and (Nikkor) lens data are properly known to the software on your PC and you can re-run some of the in-camera processing steps on your PC again.

Going forward, my guess is that camera manufacturers like Nikon will put much more emphasis on the SW parts of the image processing pipeline in all 3 stages, so things will get more connected (and dependent). The days of product improvements alone on HW innovations might come to an end.

The 3 SW "buckets" I was thinking of:
1) SW processes and refinements before the "RAW file" storage step
2) in-camera processing like JPEG files and other capabilities (after the RAW step)
3) Post-camera processing on the PC (i.e. de-noising and demosaicing with FP numbers instead of integers the camera has to use for power consumption considerations)

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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #100 on: May 01, 2016, 06:10:41 »
Capture NX-D is not my cup of tea. Inflexible. Underfeatured.
I loved NX-2 but it is gone together with its programmers.

Photo Ninja 1.3.3c is very usable already.

I have yet to create my own profiles.

The ooc JPEGs are very good though.
I've seen many complaints and quite frankly, some scary examples of developed d500 RAW files, that obviously comes from non generic raw developers. NX-D will create tiff files of the same quality you see from the ooc jpegs, that you can transfere to a sw with more creative options. A solution worth considering IMO.

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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #101 on: May 01, 2016, 10:14:40 »
Got my copy on thursday. Lightroom needs  a patch to V6.5 to be able to read D500s NEFs. Appears to be buggy as it does not show lens data any more in the EXIFs
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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #102 on: May 01, 2016, 12:14:05 »
Back from my morning job. Holy communion. 23 kids. Studio portraits and journalistic documentation of event.
Big group shot.

Bad mixed light. Low light at times.

D600 with AF-S 1.8/85mm and Ai-S 1.4/35mm later
D500 with AF-S 1.4/24mm

Old Wisdom: both lenses are really slow when it comes to AF. The 85 is a tad faster than the 24.

New wisdom: Snail race over. Both run Usian Bolt style on a D500. Friend with the D5 report similar.

Annotation. D750 and D810 are in fact better in puncto AF than D600. Compared to the new generation they are
olympic runner snails. Sorry. I can only compare lenses I use daily. As far as I understand. Fast AF lenses like
70-200 or 24-70 from the trinity do not show such an extreme jump.

For me, using only fast primes this is a revelation.
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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #103 on: May 01, 2016, 12:40:06 »
Next point. Battery milage. I took 1123 RAW+JPEG and
needed less than two EN-EL 15. With the fast XQD, Lexar 2933x
I estimate 750 RAW+JPEG from my first experience.

Yes. I did not use the fresh unconditioned from the unboxing.
I used two well conditioned older Batteries in very good health status.

PS. I very very rarely use the display. So you have to discount that.

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Re: Nikon D500 - first impressions
« Reply #104 on: May 01, 2016, 14:28:22 »
Next Point: Eye detection AF-C works wonderfully, with ~75% hit rate in rather difficult situations.

Beware of glasses though. The algorithm seems to have some issues with glasses, esp. reflecting ones. In such a case in a row of people you will hit the person second in line if you do not do something about it. I guess I will assign a function button to switch to single point manual selection AF for two or three shots, if that is possible.

Pictures.

First: One of about five out of 17 kids in the "enlighting" situation. Last week with D600 and Ai-S 1.4/35mm @f=4 ... technical next to none were OK, pictorial less ...
Second: One of about 15 of 23 kids in the "enlighting" situation. Today with the D500 and AF-S 1.4/24mm @f=2.8 ... technically next to all were OK, pictorial less, but this is a hectic situation...

EXIF should be readable in both
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