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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2016, 16:16:49 »
there is a 55/3.5 P at 65€ and a K at 85€ right now with a local seller.
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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2016, 16:24:50 »
Nice work, El Sid. The rose shows especially fetching details with the 55/3.5.

Can someone please elucidate the differences between the 55/3.5 Micro-Nikkor and the 55/2.8 versions?  Thanks.

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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2016, 18:04:49 »
Thank you Andrea for your comment. Roses are among the subjects I like to photograph up close.
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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2016, 18:28:44 »
55/2.8 has CRC, the f/3.5 versions have not.

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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2016, 19:25:10 »
That series of lenses is my favourite, in fact i have around 20 of them :o :o :o

the Df did not ruin the price of the older Nikkors, mirrorless did. specially for the older lenses of other brands...


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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2016, 19:30:26 »
That's how the focusing unit (barrel) looks like when taken apart... :o :o :o

check that ring on the lower corner... ::)

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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2016, 20:50:01 »
the Df did not ruin the price of the older Nikkors, mirrorless did. specially for the older lenses of other brands...
Exactly.   

Is the second one to the left really a 'p' version?  It looks like the older Micro-Auto NKJ

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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2016, 20:54:42 »
Nice lineup, Richard! Good to see the different types next to one another.
I need to go look and see which one I have. Seems I have not used any of my macros for some time now. Got busy with other shooting I suppose.

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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2016, 22:02:40 »
Can someone please elucidate the differences between the 55/3.5 Micro-Nikkor and the 55/2.8 versions?  Thanks.
55/3.5 micro:
- 5/4 elements
- unit focusing
- 6 aperture blades
- pre-AI and AI

55/2.8 micro:
- 6/5 elements
- unit focusing with CRC
- 7 aperture blades
- AIS

Otherwise they are pretty similar. Oh yeah, the 55/2.8 is half a stop faster :). The 55/2.8 was part of my travel kit for years (in combination with an AI 20/3.5 and AIS 135/2.8 ) - the f2.8 speed is just fast enough for it to be used as regular standard lens which happens to focus very close. The 55/3.5 feels just a bit slow to be used as a general purpose lens but I guess with quality high ISO cameras that is less of a problem these days. I also prefer the 7-blade aperture for nicer OOF  blurs and diffraction stars. The 55/2.8 is known for getting oil on the blades - mine has gummed up for the second time and the focus ring has become extremely tight (I'll sell it for parts/repair soon as I replaced it with another late serial number lens which has clean aperture blades and delightfully smooth focusing).

Read about the development of the 55 micro here: http://www.nikkor.com/story/0026/

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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2016, 22:15:04 »
The 55/2.8 Micro is 2/3 stop faster in fact ....

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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2016, 00:16:27 »
To be precise: if we start at f/4 and go up in 1/3 stops we get:
4.00 | 3.56 | 3.17 | 2.83 ... which rounds to:  4 | 3.6 | 3.2 | 2.8

Going in 1/2 stops we get:
4.00 | 3.36 | 2.83 ... which rounds to: 4 | 3.4 | 2.8

f/3.5 isn't 1/2 or 2/3 stop different ... more like 3/5 stop slower that f/2.8. It's really an odd aperture. I guess it was popular because it's a "round" number. Some Leica lenses and others use f/3.4 instead, which is probably meant to be exactly half a stop faster than f/4.



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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2016, 00:38:04 »
The 'rounding' of f-numbers follows tradition and are not necessarily mathematically correct, that is why some EXIf readers insist f/5.6 is 5.7 and f/3.5 is 3.6. Likewise, f/11 should be more correctly given as f/11.3 (or f/11.5 if you round to nearest 0.5). Etc.

The 1/3 stops are f/4, f/3.5, f/3.2, f/2.8. The half stops are f/4, f/3.4, f/2.8. (f/3.3 is the true 1/2 stop but one often sees 3.4 in stead, depending on the way round is conducted. f/3.4 is actually +7/12 over f/2.8 ). Like +1/3 over f/5.6 is usually taken as f/6.3, but sometimes the figure f/6.4 is used. The list of ambiguous f-numbers go on and on.

I see more than my allotted share of 1/12 and 1/6 steps when I program CPUs for the Nikkors. Some EXIF readers manage 1/6 steps, nearly none 1/12, and the cameras usually go by 1/3, or by the traditionally used numbers.

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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2016, 02:42:03 »
Exactly.   

Is the second one to the left really a 'p' version?  It looks like the older Micro-Auto NKJ
Yup! it's a Nikkor-P (metal nose) :o :o :o

these days, manual lenses disappear from the junk box really quick ::)

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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2016, 02:44:45 »
Nice lineup, Richard! Good to see the different types next to one another.
I need to go look and see which one I have. Seems I have not used any of my macros for some time now. Got busy with other shooting I suppose.

Thanks! i should take a picture of them all in a line :o :o :o

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Re: Nippon Kogaku No 225392 Micro-Nikkor Auto 1:3.5 55mm
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2016, 02:50:40 »
Hey, guys! dont forget about the rings! :o :o :o