Author Topic: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects  (Read 46639 times)

Erik Lund

  • Global Moderator
  • **
  • Posts: 6529
  • Copenhagen
    • ErikLund.com
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2016, 09:42:52 »
20 cm is a Perfect length - no need to make it shorter,,,

It would place the support ring at about 10cm from the camera mount.

Thanks
Erik Lund

Bjørn Rørslett

  • Fierce Bear of the North
  • Administrator
  • ***
  • Posts: 8252
  • Oslo, Norway
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2016, 10:09:31 »
But is there another lens between the fisheye and the inverted 50? Or is it just tubes?

It's the focusing stage. One needs to get a fine-tune of the interdistances from the relay system to the main lens in front.

Bjørn Rørslett

  • Fierce Bear of the North
  • Administrator
  • ***
  • Posts: 8252
  • Oslo, Norway
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2016, 10:19:44 »
20 cm is a Perfect length - no need to make it shorter,,,

It would place the support ring at about 10cm from the camera mount.

Thanks

I think it's preferable to have the support closer to the camera, if possible. Those two lenses making up the optical part of the relay system are heavy and there will be a leverage effect to the camera mount.

Erik Lund

  • Global Moderator
  • **
  • Posts: 6529
  • Copenhagen
    • ErikLund.com
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2016, 10:26:20 »
I'll make sketch to show the support.
Erik Lund

Erik Lund

  • Global Moderator
  • **
  • Posts: 6529
  • Copenhagen
    • ErikLund.com
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2016, 11:03:25 »
I have made an update in the Lens thread on the '6mm 2.8 Ais'
http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/topic,3011.msg44751.html#msg44751
Erik Lund

Bjørn Rørslett

  • Fierce Bear of the North
  • Administrator
  • ***
  • Posts: 8252
  • Oslo, Norway
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2016, 11:10:27 »
OK, having direct support of the camera solves the problem, if twisting and leveraged tension to the camera bayonet ccan be avoided.

Do remember that once the relay system is installed and the secondary focus is fine-tuned, it will be a rigid component with no further need of adjustment. The fisheye lens itself will be used for focusing (on the pilot system where a fix-focus 7.5 mm fisheye was used, the secondary focusing stage was required to focus the entire system).

David Paterson

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1500
  • Retired, but not tired, photographer
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2016, 11:13:36 »
It's the focusing stage. One needs to get a fine-tune of the interdistances from the relay system to the main lens in front.

Excuse my ignorance, but once it is complete and fine-tuned, what will it do? What is it for?

Erik Lund

  • Global Moderator
  • **
  • Posts: 6529
  • Copenhagen
    • ErikLund.com
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2016, 11:29:39 »
Bjørn, sounds perfect!

Dave, For video; The video format of the DSLR cameras is 16:9 so is cropping top and bottom of the circular fisheye!
Erik Lund

rosko

  • Homo erectus manualfocus
  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 1317
  • France/Uk
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2016, 13:00:56 »
I booked for the Saturday 14th boat trip at 1 PM, so enough time to get there (about 2 hours drive)

Thanks for the link, Chris !

I just booked the ferry for the same date too.

We have to be there at least half an hour prior departure. So, according Google Maps, the trip duration would be 2hours 11 mn. As on saturday, the traffic should be OK, I think leaving Killin at about 8/8:30am sound sensible if we want have a lunch before crossing. Let's keep in mind that is the end of stay at Killin and we all have to be ready to leave...that means : luggage packed ! ;D

I don't know yet whether I leave Anstruther right after return from isle of May to reach Falkirk (where there is a amazing canal lock to see), or going toward Edinburgh I want to visit on sunday.
Francis Devrainne

David Paterson

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1500
  • Retired, but not tired, photographer
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #54 on: March 26, 2016, 21:32:44 »
I don't know yet whether I leave Anstruther right after return from isle of May to reach Falkirk (where there is a amazing canal lock to see), or going toward Edinburgh I want to visit on sunday.

It is certainly worth seeing (the Falkirk Boat Lift), and is one of a few things I will recommend to participants if they need a day away from mountains, forests and lochs.

Akira

  • Homo jezoensis
  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 12825
  • Tokyo, Japan
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #55 on: March 26, 2016, 21:35:40 »
Ah, that's the one you were talking about.  Indeed it should look as spectacular as those horse heads!
"The eye is blind if the mind is absent." - Confucius

"Limitation is inspiration." - Akira

chris dees

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 815
  • Amsterdam
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #56 on: March 26, 2016, 21:56:32 »
Thanks for the link, Chris !

I just booked the ferry for the same date too.

We have to be there at least half an hour prior departure. So, according Google Maps, the trip duration would be 2hours 11 mn. As on saturday, the traffic should be OK, I think leaving Killin at about 8/8:30am sound sensible if we want have a lunch before crossing. Let's keep in mind that is the end of stay at Killin and we all have to be ready to leave...that means : luggage packed ! ;D

I don't know yet whether I leave Anstruther right after return from isle of May to reach Falkirk (where there is a amazing canal lock to see), or going toward Edinburgh I want to visit on sunday.

Great, then I won't be on my own.
We'll have enough time to get there.
Fingers crossed for some nice wether. :)

See you in Killin. :D
Chris Dees

David Paterson

  • NG Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1500
  • Retired, but not tired, photographer
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #57 on: March 26, 2016, 23:56:57 »
Ah, that's the one you were talking about.  Indeed it should look as spectacular as those horse heads!

The  Falkirk / Stirling area has a number of unusual architectural structures - the boat-lift, the kelpies (horse-heads) - and The Pineapple. All are worth a visit.

There is also Stirling Castle (which I don't know very well) and the Wallace Monument.

Jakov Minić

  • Jakov Minic
  • Global Moderator
  • **
  • Posts: 5354
  • The Hague, The Netherlands
    • Jakov Minić
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2016, 00:22:23 »
What a splendid idea for a roof top :)
I cannot keep track any longer of the beautiful places that we can visit.
Perhaps we could make an itinerary of some sort Sunday - Friday?
Free your mind and your ass will follow. - George Clinton
Before I jump like monkey give me banana. - Fela Kuti
Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem. - Woody Allen

Jan Anne

  • Noob
  • Global Moderator
  • **
  • Posts: 2045
  • Holland
    • Me on Flickr
Re: Scotland NG Gathering 2016: Projects
« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2016, 03:45:40 »
Anybody planning on bringing a handheld radio for communication?

We are with a big group with multiple cars and if I remember correctly mobile coverage isn't available everywhere.

The PMR 446MHz band seems to be license free in the UK at 0.5W as it is in the rest of Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMR446
Cheers,
Jan Anne