Author Topic: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor  (Read 7764 times)

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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2016, 20:47:08 »
I also like the results very much, moving from the technical immaculate deep stacks to the more artful shallow stacks. Beautiful.

I couldn't say better ! ;D

These images are really beautiful, poetic. Just the result of both great expertise and a very special lens.

Cheers, Francis.
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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2016, 23:10:39 »
Unique and beautiful. Not many people can do this sort of work - thank you

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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2016, 19:52:32 »
My first-take experiments with the Nikon Noct have reached a turning point. I have more to do, but it will be outside when spring comes. My take-away at this time is that, for my kind of close-up work, I will use the Noct wide open or stopped down a bit, either in a single shot or stacked lightly. If stacked, perhaps a shot wide-open for background, and then one or two inscapes, tightly stacked, painting focus on one or a few areas that I want in focus. And because of the fact that this lens is very sharp in the center, but rolls off quickly, I find that it takes extension well, either the K1-Ring (5.8mm) or larger, like the PK-12 (14mm), and this is often needed for close-up work.

This is not a walk-around lens for me, but a specialized lens to add to the series of lenses with “character” or a unique draw that I have assembled. It is very expensive ($3K), but worth the money in that it will serve well for years to come. It really is a wonderful and unique lens, as I had heard all these years. The recent Nikon replacement, as I study the specs will not be the same, in that there is a stronger difference in resolution in the center for the original Noct, and the new lens has better resolution at the edge, but I would rather have the greater roll-off at the edges that the original Noct provides. The new version probably is not something I need.

So, I will continue to experiment with this lens and update here if I have other insights into its use.

This photo taken with the Noct, the D810, the PK-12 extension, and Zerene Stacker.
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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2016, 23:54:08 »
There is a tenderness towards nature in your shots .. love?
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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2016, 00:01:38 »
There is a tenderness towards nature in your shots .. love?

Love of nature, for sure.
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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2016, 18:18:35 »
Amazing images Michael, it really shows how you both get used to each other!
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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2016, 19:14:12 »
I continue to experiment with the Noct Nikkor on the D810 for close-up work. Can’t say that I have had any more break-throughs, but I am getting a better grasp on what the lens can do for my kind of work. Here are three done with the Nikon D810, stacker with Zerene Stacker. The lens does have a use for close-ups, a great draw, and a look all its own.
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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2016, 20:55:02 »
wonderful colors, great micro constrast and fine rendering of structures - and a good BG bokeh!
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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2016, 22:24:43 »
Michael, You have perfected your craft. Looking at your pictures makes me feel I am reading very lyric poems.
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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2016, 20:46:57 »
According to this webpage, others, there are actually two versions of the Noct Nikkor 58mm f/1.2 (an Ai and an AiS).

The Ai is a 7-blade lens with a 230° focus throw, while the AiS is a 9-blade lens with only a 140° focus throw.

The Ai is also the elder, and also slightly-heavier, version.

Curious which version is considered superior to the other ...

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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2016, 21:52:45 »
I own both (AI, AIS) and the difference is less than people imagine.

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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2016, 21:59:47 »
I own both (AI, AIS) and the difference is less than people imagine.

If someone held the proverbial gun to your head, and forced you to keep one, while parting with the other ...

Which would you keep; with which would you part :D

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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2016, 22:26:11 »
I'd keep both. The Noct is on the list of lenses for which I need to have redundancy and backup items.  Others are CV 125/2.5 APO, UV-Nikkor 105, 200/2, 300/2.8, etc.

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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2016, 22:42:49 »
In your original response, you said, "The difference is less than people imagine," which implies there is a qualitative difference (even if negligible).

Do you care to expound on this difference?

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Re: The Close-Up Face of the Noct Nikkor
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2016, 22:54:48 »
Apparently there is a slightly less field curvature in the AIS. Do note the Noct is not a flat-field design any way.

Bokeh might be a tad smoother with the AIS. Wide open no difference of course.

I doubt the differences, although can be shown, have any significant impact on the final outcome.