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Búzios, recently
« on: January 26, 2016, 00:33:44 »
Thank you for looking.
All with Zeiss 21mm f/2.8 Distagon.



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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2016, 01:08:25 »
Mongo loves your heavily accentuated and contrasty monochrome images. These are no exception. However, the last one seems a touch too much so. Great work as always.

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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2016, 01:57:43 »
Thank you Mongo.
I completely agree with your opinion about the last one.
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2016, 02:09:18 »
I love these high skies. Like a stage for the object you put there.
You are out there. You and your camera. You can shoot or not shoot as you please. Discover the world, Your world. Show it to us. Or we might never see it.

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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2016, 10:37:21 »
Very nice images and also b&w treatment, but the very heavy mustache distortion disturbs my eye...
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2016, 11:44:47 »
I love these high skies. Like a stage for the object you put there.

Thank you. ;)
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2016, 11:46:09 »
Very nice images and also b&w treatment, but the very heavy mustache distortion disturbs my eye...

I wonder how do you detect this distortion in pics free of straight lines like these....
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2016, 13:58:03 »
My eye tells me it's not straight - I also see when a line is not true horizontal or vertical... I know most people don't see it... Sorry  ;)

If you can't see it just grab the edge of the bottom of the browser widow and move it up until the frame is next to the horizon or bring up the grid in Photoshop.
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2016, 23:51:42 »
My eye tells me it's not straight - I also see when a line is not true horizontal or vertical... I know most people don't see it... Sorry  ;)

If you can't see it just grab the edge of the bottom of the browser widow and move it up until the frame is next to the horizon or bring up the grid in Photoshop.

No need to be sorry. It is Zeiss fault.... Lol  ;D
I wonder how the performance of the Otus 28mm f/1.4 will be.
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2016, 07:47:35 »
Nice set of images with a pleasant monochrome drama.
I have one of these lenses(ZF 21mm), and while the general image forming qualities are superb, the one thing that haunts me about it is the distortion.  I believe it adds a subtle and undesirable tension to the photograph, even if there are no straight lines to detect it from. 
By the way, my former Nikkor 20/2.8 Ais had even worse wave distortion that the Zeiss 21.
The elimination of the large back focal distance in the mirrorless cameras has facilitated a reduction in wide-angle lens distortion that is immediately noticeable.
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2016, 10:53:00 »
My eye tells me it's not straight - I also see when a line is not true horizontal or vertical... I know most people don't see it... Sorry  ;)

If you can't see it just grab the edge of the bottom of the browser widow and move it up until the frame is next to the horizon or bring up the grid in Photoshop.

I think the horizons are not all in the same plane, because the view is not across the open ocean everywhere.  I find this a problem when shooting bodies of water where there is land on the far side.  The land is never straight, so the waterline cannot be straight.  So measuring straightness and the horizontal by reference to the waterline will not work in such circumstances.
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2016, 14:30:15 »
Sure that will mask the distortion, but not remove it ;)

If you look here at the mustache type distortion of the 21mm 2.8 ZM it is quite obvious that it is exactly what we see in the image.

From Photozone.de

My point is that this type of distortion is not easy to remove in Photoshop and therefore I would choose another lens for a shot with straight lines near the edges ;)

I have seen in mirrorless that they correct similar distortion in the camera, even before it is send to the EVF so it will appear as the lens is distortion free  ::)
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2016, 16:17:43 »
This  amount of distortion really don't bother me, even because I can not detect it in these landscape pics.
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2016, 21:00:33 »
I have seen in mirrorless that they correct similar distortion in the camera, even before it is send to the EVF so it will appear as the lens is distortion free  ::)

Automatic correction by software has become common.  The wide zoom lenses usually need it.
In the case of my Fujifilm 14mm on APSC(21mm-e field of view), the distortion is minimized in the optics...there is no need for software correction.  I have observed this by blocking the electrical contacts from lens to body so the camera(and subsequent processing software) doesn't know which lens is attached.
My point is only that "it can be done", at least with a prime lens.
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Re: Búzios, recently
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2016, 21:15:57 »
Yes there some lenses from various makers that have very low or very easy distortion to correct.

For many years I have hunted such near 0 distortion lenses in Nikon F and Leica M Mount... So nice for shooting architecture and products etc. ;)
To avoid any correction of the files, camera firmware and PP...


One that really is impressive is the tiny 12mm 5.6 Voigtlander FF Very impressive on Leica M - and a new version is in the works Ultra-Wide-Heliar III
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