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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #120 on: October 12, 2015, 09:53:02 »
Good morning NG!
Wish you all a creamy week!

Let me chip in with Bjørn's, John's and Charlie's lovely images. Until now I have been posting images with the Heligon attached to an extension tube.
Here is the Heligon at about 90 cm distance from the subject.
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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #121 on: October 12, 2015, 10:23:31 »
Funny you should say that, as we speak a Heligon f/1.5 is on my desk in pieces. Because the f/1.5 version of this lens has even shorter working distance than the f/1.6 version, I never used it. I decided to see if I could rearrange the lens elements to see about getting infinity focus. I pulled all of them out and started putting them back in with different combinations until something made focus. Right now it looks like I have three elements on the desk and 3 in the lens. Not sure how useful it will be as I haven't used it much yet, but I got it to focus to infinity.

Interesting observation and experiment, Charlie. Thanks for the heads-up. I'd like to echo the warning regarding the 100/1.5 Heligon: it is way inferior to the f/1.6 in terms of practical usability due to the very short back focus distance (that is, unless you pull the lens apart into separate components :D ). Thus, stick to the 100/1.6.

I expect most of the optical power resides in the (heavy) front group(s) and that the rear group(s) are added to correct aberrations downstream. Seen as a whole our tests on "massacred" lenses confirm this.

A slide projector lens probably will perform equally well (sic) and might be worth looking into. Heligons have seen a substantial price hike due to the rekindled interest in them, so always beneficial to have a cheap alternative for experimentation.

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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #122 on: October 12, 2015, 10:28:34 »
Jakov: your tulip field is truly enchanting. I'd like to see alternate framings as well where the emphasis is put on the yellow and red colours and no green is allowed to intrude. But that's me and my preference for golden yellows and reds combined ....

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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #123 on: October 12, 2015, 10:40:49 »
Thanks Bjørn for your thoughts, perhaps this image is more to your liking :)
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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #124 on: October 12, 2015, 10:44:42 »
Too little reds .... just teasing you, Jakovic.

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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #125 on: October 12, 2015, 10:55:14 »
Something told me I was not going to prevail :)
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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #126 on: October 12, 2015, 22:30:23 »
I expect most of the optical power resides in the (heavy) front group(s) and that the rear group(s) are added to correct aberrations downstream. Seen as a whole our tests on "massacred" lenses confirm this.

A slide projector lens probably will perform equally well (sic) and might be worth looking into. Heligons have seen a substantial price hike due to the rekindled interest in them, so always beneficial to have a cheap alternative for experimentation.

Interesting, I'll try some more element combinations. According to my notes its a 7 element lens and I was able to achieve infinity by removing the rear element (1), removing the front three elements (5, 6, & 7), and leaving elements 2, 3, & 4 in place.  Adding element #5 also worked for infinity but the lens needed to be moved further from the camera to do so. Secretly I was hoping to create a lens that mimic'd some vintage lenses I had seen with nice aberrational qualities, wishful thinking.

I do have a box of projector lenses laying around, perhaps those will be dissected next.

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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #127 on: October 13, 2015, 09:39:16 »
May you all have a special day today!
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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #128 on: October 13, 2015, 09:46:07 »
Thank you, Jakov!
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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #129 on: October 13, 2015, 09:54:01 »
Thanks. That's a nice Valentine-card  ;) 

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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #130 on: October 13, 2015, 17:55:28 »
May you all have a special day today!

Aw, what a sweetheart! Thanks and you too!

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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #131 on: October 14, 2015, 10:41:36 »
Andrew, John, Charlie, and NG comrades, may this day be two times better!
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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #132 on: October 14, 2015, 12:49:32 »
Oh, isn't that last one a real day-maker Jakov!!!!

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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #133 on: October 14, 2015, 13:23:09 »
Thank you Sten :)
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Re: Df + Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6
« Reply #134 on: October 14, 2015, 14:28:54 »
Incredible!!
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