Author Topic: Do Mirrorless lenses go click, tap noise while filming video?  (Read 294 times)

Steven Paulsen

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I wish they would make a cheap, small body square 4K camera that takes Ai lenses.

I'm trying with a D5. With 4K they make the video larger, but cut the corners on a D5 camera. It's DX. My 17 -35 lens is kinda worthless. I bought a sigma 10-20, which works well for 2-3 people, indoors. (Is it overkill to get a top grab handle?) It's a tad on the heavy side.

If anyone has a guide for sound. I bought a passive Rode mic and a Shure Lenshopper, inexpensively. The DX mode sort of stinks but it would be fine, for telephoto crop. I never thought a 10-20 would be the answer. I'm running the audio with the camera set at 13, Camera Sound and the Shure set at zero. Wrong tool for the right kind of fun.

Hey, it works?

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Re: Do Mirrorless lenses go click, tap noise while filming video?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2024, 06:53:08 »
AS long as we're wishing fantasy Nikon video items, let put in a suggestion: An orientable EVF, either built into the body or an add-on.  Aside from having no built-in ND filters, the biggest torture of using a DSL body for video is the EVF that's stuck at eye-level.  Nikon could offer a Z6III-V, with EVF that swivels 120º or so, from a little below eye-level to just forward of straight down viewing. Oh well, no harm asking.
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Re: Do Mirrorless lenses go click, tap noise while filming video?
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2024, 02:02:16 »
I have an old strobaframe monpod that hooks to my belt. I get a steady shot because of three point handling.

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Re: Do Mirrorless lenses go click, tap noise while filming video?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2024, 05:08:01 »
The closest candidates would be Blackmagic PIXSYS 6K, Cinema Camera 6K or Panasonic Lumix BSH1.  Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K is not a box style camera, but has tiltable EVF and LCD screen.  All are L-mount cameras that can be used with an Nikon F to L mount adapter.
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Re: Do Mirrorless lenses go click, tap noise while filming video?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2024, 10:06:14 »
I wish they would make a cheap, small body square 4K camera that takes Ai lenses.

I'm trying with a D5. With 4K they make the video larger, but cut the corners on a D5 camera. It's DX. My 17 -35 lens is kinda worthless. I bought a sigma 10-20, which works well for 2-3 people, indoors. (Is it overkill to get a top grab handle?) It's a tad on the heavy side.

If anyone has a guide for sound. I bought a passive Rode mic and a Shure Lenshopper, inexpensively. The DX mode sort of stinks but it would be fine, for telephoto crop. I never thought a 10-20 would be the answer. I'm running the audio with the camera set at 13, Camera Sound and the Shure set at zero. Wrong tool for the right kind of fun.

Hey, it works?

I find a battery-powered, amplified on-camera mic to work better with the in-camera audio input (maximize amplification in the microphone before the cable, and then minimize amplification in-camera). However, using an external audio recorder gives cleaner sound, but it introduces the problem that one then has to synchronize the audio files with the video which can take some extra work. The best results I've had so far have been by connecting an amplified on-camera shotgun (Rode Videomic Pro+) to one of the channels of the audio recorder and mixing an X/Y stereo with the shotgun channel in the recorder, then taking the line output from the audio recorder and connecting that to the camera's audio input. This gives adequate consistency between the in-camera audio signal and the audio files recorded by the recorder so that automatic synchronization of the external audio files with the audio in the video files usually works simply by telling the software to synchronize them based on the waveforms. However, this is quite complicated for simple documentary videos. I wish Nikon would take audio seriously so that this hassle would be avoided and things would just work automatically together.

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Re: Do Mirrorless lenses go click, tap noise while filming video?
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2024, 10:08:56 »
AS long as we're wishing fantasy Nikon video items, let put in a suggestion: An orientable EVF, either built into the body or an add-on.  Aside from having no built-in ND filters, the biggest torture of using a DSL body for video is the EVF that's stuck at eye-level.  Nikon could offer a Z6III-V, with EVF that swivels 120º or so, from a little below eye-level to just forward of straight down viewing. Oh well, no harm asking.

I believe that you can use the HDMI output to connect to an external EVF that can be tilted, but this kind of a construction does increase the weight and complexity of the setup. From what I've seen, many more people use external monitors (in many cases with a hood) rather than EVFs for video. The use of the EVF means you are probably touching the EVF with your head and that can introduce shake when operating on a tripod and on a gimbal you wouldn't be able to use the EVF very easily. I never could get hand-held video which looked watchable myself, but I know some do.

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Re: Do Mirrorless lenses go click, tap noise while filming video?
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2024, 20:47:39 »
I believe that you can use the HDMI output to connect to an external EVF that can be tilted, but this kind of a construction does increase the weight and complexity of the setup. From what I've seen, many more people use external monitors (in many cases with a hood) rather than EVFs for video. The use of the EVF means you are probably touching the EVF with your head and that can introduce shake when operating on a tripod and on a gimbal you wouldn't be able to use the EVF very easily. I never could get hand-held video which looked watchable myself, but I know some do.
I've had that experience experimenting with handheld.  Amazing how the DSL/still camera form factor seems to promote shaky video. I conclude that that's why purpose-designed video/digital cinema cameras are organized and shaped the way they are. Also note the explosion in the use of various types of stabilizer gimbals.
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